☺︎Anonymous said...
Roy, thank you for taking time to research the issues with Workday. It's about time that someone is shining some light on a major problem that is going to have a huge impact on our staff and faculty. The HR roll-out in January, uncovered many issues with the Workday system, but everyone kept the "it will be fine" storyline going...unfortunately it was not and things progressed full-speed ahead despite obvious problems. The second phase of the Workday roll-out (the financial and accounting system without the contract piece you described) was scheduled for July 1st. Given the problems with the initial Workday roll-out, one would have expected a delay in the second phase until problems with the first phase were resolved. No such luck, as the second phase has now been implemented and the problems are just starting to surface as our faculty and staff try to utilize the system. Your analysis is spot on: MAJOR FUBAR! Unfortunately, those of us at the college that have to deal with this mess are getting little support and the frustrations and problems will only continue.
Please keep updating the campus as to what is going on, as the administration (especially the District) will not.
7:29 AM, July 04, 2015
☺︎ Anonymous said...
It already has a new name...it is called "WORSEDAY"
10:40 AM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Wow! Just can't believe you are dissing the only administrator trying to make positive changes to this district, she has been working on this in a methodical and systemic way. She is the only one who actually listens to us and is improving this place. The workday system was never supposed to manage contracts but when an opportunity rose to have software to augment WD, she facilitated that too, again, to make improvements. Give her and the team a break. Have you all led a change effort like this, it's not easy. I commend her for doing this. BTW, the go-live date was just 2 days ago. And, part of the go-live plan is to roll it out over several months and stabilize the system. This is rolling out as expected and adjustments are being made as we go. I think you need to talk to folks who know more about this project and get the correct info. I commend her for taking on this enormous task. No one else around here is willing to lead and make such positive changes.
12:24 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Sad that you didn't talk to someone informed about this project. Fitz is one awesome lady! You really should talk with her to get the facts. The project is going as expected and nothing this large and complex is done overnight. Look at the project plans and you will see how complicated it is to make all these changes from paper to digital and improve business processes.
12:39 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
She is 'hands down' the best exec we've had at district ever. And, she is the only one willing to take on hard tasks such as making these improvements to our 1960's bureaucratic processes. She is actually making a difference. Criticizing the Workday project before it's finished is hardly fair. I'm surprised at you, Roy.
12:47 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
workday is working. Whoever you are talking to had no idea or is starting trouble. What haters! I agree that Debra is doing a good job at this and her intentions are to make things better unlike a lot of folks.
1:38 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Agree with 12:24. There have been trainings every day, open labs, a training share point page, lots of communications. Can't believe someone is saying they are not getting support. Never saw so much inclusiveness at this district as was done by VC Fitzsimons on getting input and making adjustments as has been done with this project. Sorry to see your slant on this project especially as it's not even completed yet. Gee whiz. People are just trying to find things to hate on. I for one, am glad she is leading this project and we have all these changes being made. The paperwork and time it took to get things done before was ridiculous. Now, we are coming into the 21st century, at least, and in such a short period of time. I also agree that no one else has stepped up like she has. Kim McCord is also really great. Glad we have the both of them.
1:45 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I think you need to find new sources. Workday was never intended to have contracts management and contracts editing and tracking. It was always planned to have a separate solution and was timed so that we entered into an agreement for that software when we were ready to do that part of the overall project. Also how can people be criticizing this project when it's not completely implemented yet. That's how much those sources know. Your suggestion that there was some major problem with WD that needed fixing is just not fact. The FADUR is your unreliable sources.
3:03 PM, July 04, 2015
☺︎Anonymous said...
The people in my area remain flummoxed by this [program] and all we really need to do is report absences. The self-reporting aspect of this is problematic as well.
3:53 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I have never responded to your blog before, but also feel a need to defend her. This workday project is a challenging one. Very complicated. The project is not one where you flick a switch and it's turned on. It's designing processes, going live with them, and making adjustments. It's going exactly how we thought it would go with something large and expansive as this project is. Her leadership has been wonderful. I admire her for leading the effort. With that said, off to watch some fireworks. Let's give this project a chance to unfold, why don't we.
5:31 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Holy crap! Just saw these posts and have to say something. As a long time faculty member, am very impressed with Dr. Fitzsimons. She is very credible. One of the most effective, respectful, and mindful administrators we have had and normal, too. With the other crazies running around here, she gives me hope we will make the changes that are needed. I trust her. Which is saying a lot coming from this cynical old fart. Don't drive her away.
6:39 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Yeah Roy, looks like you and your sources came off half-cocked and you jumped the gun again [?]. Deb Fitz is the best! Looks life Roy & co. are suffering from chronic foot in mouth disease.
6:51 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Roy, you are way off on this one, buddy. You should contact Debra, or the project manager. Or the workday team leaders. The payroll integration and benefits is still being worked on. So, are many aspects. Hope Debra and all the good working people on this project don't get discouraged by all you naysayers. I doubt if they read your blog. But, They have done a stand up job. And, there is a long way to go yet. And, you do know that she is not over HR, right. Have any of you attended any training? I bet not. Anyways, happy fourth.
7:47 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
You make it sound like FITZSIMONS was misleading the board. None of the RFP respondents could do contract management. These big HR and Fiscal systems don't have that. It was planned to have a contracts software product to integrate with whatever system was chosen. No X Files mystery here. Nothing was done that was not planned out in advance over a year ago. I think you owe DR. F. a big fat Roypology. I think she was forthright about this.
8:16 PM, July 04, 2015
☺︎Anonymous said...
No one is saying that the district didn't need updated systems and a means to go paperless. No one is saying that Debra didn't step up to spearhead this. The training, PR, and communication have been great. To get an honest assessment, you should speak with staff in HR, Payroll, Purchasing and Accounting - the real staff, the workers in the system every day - and you will learn that the system is truly NOT ready for prime time. It is complicated and cumbersome. Many tasks will take far more time to complete in Workday than they did in Escape. It's not a matter of tweaking things for the next few months. There are things that Workday just cannot do, and the district is still trying to figure out how to work around that. Does Debra know this? I don't know. She may be too high level to know about the details. Kim McCord? I commend her for doing everything possible to make this work and for putting on her game face in spite of the constant difficulties with the system. The go-live was just a few days ago, but HR and Payroll have been live for six months, and those systems still do not work. To quote one consultant, "It's like putting lipstick on a pig." And, to quote a member of the project team, "It's like trying to shove a square peg into a round hole." Debra is great. Kim is great. You will not hear either one of them diss Workday, but if they are saying everything is great and you're believing it, you are drinking the Kool-Aid. Again, talk to the people who are using it. I am in a position to know and Roy, it sounds like your source is too.
8:33 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I am in a position to know, too. Kim, debra, Rosie, brenda, and tons of staff have been working their butts off day in and day out on this project. Is everything going perfect? No, of course not. That is part of what occurs on these projects. We are replacing Hundreds of processes. It's incredible. As each day goes by, they are making the fixes needed. I heard Debra say something a couple of weeks ago about being patient and kind. And, it really hit home. No one can understand how much of an effort this takes. All the staff are working together to make this work. And, it will.
8:40 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Love, love, love Debra. She has her fingers on the pulse of this project. I'm sure she would be the first to say that kinks are being worked out. And they expected to have the kinks. She is a straight up person. You should ask her how things are going. I know she would be up front with you. I liked what the other post said about being patient and kind. Good night.
10:02 PM, July 04, 2015
Anonymous said...
How much did this cost?
10:31 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I like the new system. Approved a vacation request the other day from the beach. Sure couldn't do that before. Way easier now. I think that change is hard and people need to be positive. This will be a good thing for the college. Takes time to get use to new things.
12:14 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Thanks Roy for this post because it very clearly illustrates one of the biggest problems in this district. And no, it's not evil and/or corrupt administrators as you seem to believe. Do we have some lousy administrators? Yes. Do we have some lousy faculty? Yes. How about managers and staff? Yep. However my experience is that a vast majority of employees in this district are good people who are doing their best within a very politically charged environment.
In my opinion one of the biggest problems in this district is the tendency we all have to jump to conclusions based on incomplete information, assume ill intent on the part of others and judge the work of people in other areas when we really don't know what we're talking about. That leads to entrenched and defensive cliques who are distrustful of others and it makes it very difficult to move forward with any kind of cohesion. And the worst part? The students suffer because we can't get our act together.
This blog has wide readership within the district and with that visibility comes power. You have the power to enlighten your readers with your insights into the actions across the district and hold our leaders to a reasonable and fair level of accountability. You also have the power to belittle, demean and contribute to the poisonous political environment in which we find ourselves. A lot of your readers would like to see much less of the latter and much more of the former.
5:19 PM, July 05, 2015
☮Anonymous said...
I agree with 3:51. We all need to chill out and let Workday take its course. It may be a flop in the end. And we will find out why, exactly. But I applaud DTB for posting every comment, favorable or not. The more the merrier. That's how we will get a better picture of what's going on.
5:57 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
There is so much misinformation in this particular blog post, that I don't know where to start. For instance, the soft roll out for HR was planned. The district also does not run its own payroll, the county does. The integration with WD and the county is being developed. That will roll out in a month or two. When it's ready. I highly suggest you talk to the people running the project. They have the information. They would share. They have been sharing it. The VC and others are all working through this project plan. I am happy we are doing these long overdue improvements. People are really making it happen. No wonder people never wanted to address hard issues or solve difficult problems before. Its hard but is being made harder when you get these kind of accusations and rumors. We will forever be in mediocrity if we can't get out of this habit. No one will ever want to step up again. Sad.
6:52 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I normally agree with a lot that you have to say on DTB, but not this time. I agree with some of the other comments. Think you jumped the shark on this one. VC Fitz is well liked, mainly because she does her homework and follows through. I would not expect any less on this software initiative. The insinuations on the blog look rather unfair.
8:39 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
What's going on is that we are integrating a new system to help with college processes. It's never fun to adopt something new like this, but people need to give it time and understand that anything like this will come with its share of glitches. Think about when you download a new OS on your iphone -- sometimes they come with glitches! It happens and the road is bumpy and then it's fine. Be nice. It's hard work implementing something big and new like this. They don't need employees to make it harder and nit pick to death. Some people would rather us change nothing, ever. How do those people survive in this world?
2:53 PM, July 06, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
It is easy for outsiders to complain about a process in which they work only on the fringes. I am what is considered a super user and while I have had my concerns---I have always had the ability to voice them in this process and in many cases I have seen the problem fixed or real changes made to Workday. It is a huge undertaking and involves the tiniest change involving jury duty time to huge multi account contracts. If you do not appreciate the work that has gone into such an undertaking, you do not really appreciate the work itself. Even with my concerns, I do plan to give this every opportunity and plan to continue to assist in that process. We cannot complain about systems and processes and procedures not working and then complain when there is a real attempt to make them work. Debra Fitzsimons has lead this charge and points to her for her attempts.....
3:31 PM, July 06, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Debra has led a lot of positive changes. It used to take 3-4 weeks to get my travel reimbursement check. Now, with the changes she made, my last check only took a day to get. That's really incredible. I was very happy about that. I do believe we will get there on this Workday project. She has been very effective. As well as all her staff.
9:22 PM, July 06, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Roy, you made it sound like selecting Workday was not done with thought and research. Like it is some fly by night company. It's not. It may have started with private companies before it went to the higher education market. So what. Many colleges and universities, from community colleges to universities like Chapman, Rutgers, and USC are using it. This was the most thought out and well run RFP process that I've seen. Couldn't have been more thorough, well-researched, and inclusive of all levels of employees before, during, and after.
9:38 PM, July 06, 2015
Anonymous said...
You said you were only posing a question, but no, you weren't just doing that. You had a lengthy 20 plus paragraph blog with some half baked accusations before you actually posed the question of what folks think about Workday. Which also, was premature to be asking, given implementation is just occurring. Not cool. I can see why folks commented. Plus Debra and gang are good people.
10:47 PM, July 06, 2015
Anonymous said...
10:47, this all seems to be the general M.O. of the folks who author this blog. It has been their approach from its inception.
10:59 PM, July 06, 2015
Roy Bauer said...
If you're going to accuse the authors of this blog of anything, be specific. Too many of you are hiding behind vagueness and anonymity. --RB
More comments added as they are posted....
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Please keep updating the campus as to what is going on, as the administration (especially the District) will not.
7:29 AM, July 04, 2015
☺︎ Anonymous said...
It already has a new name...it is called "WORSEDAY"
10:40 AM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Wow! Just can't believe you are dissing the only administrator trying to make positive changes to this district, she has been working on this in a methodical and systemic way. She is the only one who actually listens to us and is improving this place. The workday system was never supposed to manage contracts but when an opportunity rose to have software to augment WD, she facilitated that too, again, to make improvements. Give her and the team a break. Have you all led a change effort like this, it's not easy. I commend her for doing this. BTW, the go-live date was just 2 days ago. And, part of the go-live plan is to roll it out over several months and stabilize the system. This is rolling out as expected and adjustments are being made as we go. I think you need to talk to folks who know more about this project and get the correct info. I commend her for taking on this enormous task. No one else around here is willing to lead and make such positive changes.
12:24 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Sad that you didn't talk to someone informed about this project. Fitz is one awesome lady! You really should talk with her to get the facts. The project is going as expected and nothing this large and complex is done overnight. Look at the project plans and you will see how complicated it is to make all these changes from paper to digital and improve business processes.
12:39 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
She is 'hands down' the best exec we've had at district ever. And, she is the only one willing to take on hard tasks such as making these improvements to our 1960's bureaucratic processes. She is actually making a difference. Criticizing the Workday project before it's finished is hardly fair. I'm surprised at you, Roy.
12:47 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
workday is working. Whoever you are talking to had no idea or is starting trouble. What haters! I agree that Debra is doing a good job at this and her intentions are to make things better unlike a lot of folks.
1:38 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Agree with 12:24. There have been trainings every day, open labs, a training share point page, lots of communications. Can't believe someone is saying they are not getting support. Never saw so much inclusiveness at this district as was done by VC Fitzsimons on getting input and making adjustments as has been done with this project. Sorry to see your slant on this project especially as it's not even completed yet. Gee whiz. People are just trying to find things to hate on. I for one, am glad she is leading this project and we have all these changes being made. The paperwork and time it took to get things done before was ridiculous. Now, we are coming into the 21st century, at least, and in such a short period of time. I also agree that no one else has stepped up like she has. Kim McCord is also really great. Glad we have the both of them.
1:45 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I think you need to find new sources. Workday was never intended to have contracts management and contracts editing and tracking. It was always planned to have a separate solution and was timed so that we entered into an agreement for that software when we were ready to do that part of the overall project. Also how can people be criticizing this project when it's not completely implemented yet. That's how much those sources know. Your suggestion that there was some major problem with WD that needed fixing is just not fact. The FADUR is your unreliable sources.
3:03 PM, July 04, 2015
☺︎Anonymous said...
The people in my area remain flummoxed by this [program] and all we really need to do is report absences. The self-reporting aspect of this is problematic as well.
3:53 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I have never responded to your blog before, but also feel a need to defend her. This workday project is a challenging one. Very complicated. The project is not one where you flick a switch and it's turned on. It's designing processes, going live with them, and making adjustments. It's going exactly how we thought it would go with something large and expansive as this project is. Her leadership has been wonderful. I admire her for leading the effort. With that said, off to watch some fireworks. Let's give this project a chance to unfold, why don't we.
5:31 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Holy crap! Just saw these posts and have to say something. As a long time faculty member, am very impressed with Dr. Fitzsimons. She is very credible. One of the most effective, respectful, and mindful administrators we have had and normal, too. With the other crazies running around here, she gives me hope we will make the changes that are needed. I trust her. Which is saying a lot coming from this cynical old fart. Don't drive her away.
6:39 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Yeah Roy, looks like you and your sources came off half-cocked and you jumped the gun again [?]. Deb Fitz is the best! Looks life Roy & co. are suffering from chronic foot in mouth disease.
6:51 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Roy, you are way off on this one, buddy. You should contact Debra, or the project manager. Or the workday team leaders. The payroll integration and benefits is still being worked on. So, are many aspects. Hope Debra and all the good working people on this project don't get discouraged by all you naysayers. I doubt if they read your blog. But, They have done a stand up job. And, there is a long way to go yet. And, you do know that she is not over HR, right. Have any of you attended any training? I bet not. Anyways, happy fourth.
7:47 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
You make it sound like FITZSIMONS was misleading the board. None of the RFP respondents could do contract management. These big HR and Fiscal systems don't have that. It was planned to have a contracts software product to integrate with whatever system was chosen. No X Files mystery here. Nothing was done that was not planned out in advance over a year ago. I think you owe DR. F. a big fat Roypology. I think she was forthright about this.
8:16 PM, July 04, 2015
☺︎Anonymous said...
No one is saying that the district didn't need updated systems and a means to go paperless. No one is saying that Debra didn't step up to spearhead this. The training, PR, and communication have been great. To get an honest assessment, you should speak with staff in HR, Payroll, Purchasing and Accounting - the real staff, the workers in the system every day - and you will learn that the system is truly NOT ready for prime time. It is complicated and cumbersome. Many tasks will take far more time to complete in Workday than they did in Escape. It's not a matter of tweaking things for the next few months. There are things that Workday just cannot do, and the district is still trying to figure out how to work around that. Does Debra know this? I don't know. She may be too high level to know about the details. Kim McCord? I commend her for doing everything possible to make this work and for putting on her game face in spite of the constant difficulties with the system. The go-live was just a few days ago, but HR and Payroll have been live for six months, and those systems still do not work. To quote one consultant, "It's like putting lipstick on a pig." And, to quote a member of the project team, "It's like trying to shove a square peg into a round hole." Debra is great. Kim is great. You will not hear either one of them diss Workday, but if they are saying everything is great and you're believing it, you are drinking the Kool-Aid. Again, talk to the people who are using it. I am in a position to know and Roy, it sounds like your source is too.
8:33 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I am in a position to know, too. Kim, debra, Rosie, brenda, and tons of staff have been working their butts off day in and day out on this project. Is everything going perfect? No, of course not. That is part of what occurs on these projects. We are replacing Hundreds of processes. It's incredible. As each day goes by, they are making the fixes needed. I heard Debra say something a couple of weeks ago about being patient and kind. And, it really hit home. No one can understand how much of an effort this takes. All the staff are working together to make this work. And, it will.
8:40 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Love, love, love Debra. She has her fingers on the pulse of this project. I'm sure she would be the first to say that kinks are being worked out. And they expected to have the kinks. She is a straight up person. You should ask her how things are going. I know she would be up front with you. I liked what the other post said about being patient and kind. Good night.
10:02 PM, July 04, 2015
Anonymous said...
How much did this cost?
10:31 PM, July 04, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I like the new system. Approved a vacation request the other day from the beach. Sure couldn't do that before. Way easier now. I think that change is hard and people need to be positive. This will be a good thing for the college. Takes time to get use to new things.
12:14 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Thanks Roy for this post because it very clearly illustrates one of the biggest problems in this district. And no, it's not evil and/or corrupt administrators as you seem to believe. Do we have some lousy administrators? Yes. Do we have some lousy faculty? Yes. How about managers and staff? Yep. However my experience is that a vast majority of employees in this district are good people who are doing their best within a very politically charged environment.
In my opinion one of the biggest problems in this district is the tendency we all have to jump to conclusions based on incomplete information, assume ill intent on the part of others and judge the work of people in other areas when we really don't know what we're talking about. That leads to entrenched and defensive cliques who are distrustful of others and it makes it very difficult to move forward with any kind of cohesion. And the worst part? The students suffer because we can't get our act together.
This blog has wide readership within the district and with that visibility comes power. You have the power to enlighten your readers with your insights into the actions across the district and hold our leaders to a reasonable and fair level of accountability. You also have the power to belittle, demean and contribute to the poisonous political environment in which we find ourselves. A lot of your readers would like to see much less of the latter and much more of the former.
5:19 PM, July 05, 2015
☮Anonymous said...
I agree with 3:51. We all need to chill out and let Workday take its course. It may be a flop in the end. And we will find out why, exactly. But I applaud DTB for posting every comment, favorable or not. The more the merrier. That's how we will get a better picture of what's going on.
5:57 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
There is so much misinformation in this particular blog post, that I don't know where to start. For instance, the soft roll out for HR was planned. The district also does not run its own payroll, the county does. The integration with WD and the county is being developed. That will roll out in a month or two. When it's ready. I highly suggest you talk to the people running the project. They have the information. They would share. They have been sharing it. The VC and others are all working through this project plan. I am happy we are doing these long overdue improvements. People are really making it happen. No wonder people never wanted to address hard issues or solve difficult problems before. Its hard but is being made harder when you get these kind of accusations and rumors. We will forever be in mediocrity if we can't get out of this habit. No one will ever want to step up again. Sad.
6:52 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
I normally agree with a lot that you have to say on DTB, but not this time. I agree with some of the other comments. Think you jumped the shark on this one. VC Fitz is well liked, mainly because she does her homework and follows through. I would not expect any less on this software initiative. The insinuations on the blog look rather unfair.
8:39 PM, July 05, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
What's going on is that we are integrating a new system to help with college processes. It's never fun to adopt something new like this, but people need to give it time and understand that anything like this will come with its share of glitches. Think about when you download a new OS on your iphone -- sometimes they come with glitches! It happens and the road is bumpy and then it's fine. Be nice. It's hard work implementing something big and new like this. They don't need employees to make it harder and nit pick to death. Some people would rather us change nothing, ever. How do those people survive in this world?
2:53 PM, July 06, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
It is easy for outsiders to complain about a process in which they work only on the fringes. I am what is considered a super user and while I have had my concerns---I have always had the ability to voice them in this process and in many cases I have seen the problem fixed or real changes made to Workday. It is a huge undertaking and involves the tiniest change involving jury duty time to huge multi account contracts. If you do not appreciate the work that has gone into such an undertaking, you do not really appreciate the work itself. Even with my concerns, I do plan to give this every opportunity and plan to continue to assist in that process. We cannot complain about systems and processes and procedures not working and then complain when there is a real attempt to make them work. Debra Fitzsimons has lead this charge and points to her for her attempts.....
3:31 PM, July 06, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Debra has led a lot of positive changes. It used to take 3-4 weeks to get my travel reimbursement check. Now, with the changes she made, my last check only took a day to get. That's really incredible. I was very happy about that. I do believe we will get there on this Workday project. She has been very effective. As well as all her staff.
9:22 PM, July 06, 2015
☹ Anonymous said...
Roy, you made it sound like selecting Workday was not done with thought and research. Like it is some fly by night company. It's not. It may have started with private companies before it went to the higher education market. So what. Many colleges and universities, from community colleges to universities like Chapman, Rutgers, and USC are using it. This was the most thought out and well run RFP process that I've seen. Couldn't have been more thorough, well-researched, and inclusive of all levels of employees before, during, and after.
9:38 PM, July 06, 2015
Anonymous said...
You said you were only posing a question, but no, you weren't just doing that. You had a lengthy 20 plus paragraph blog with some half baked accusations before you actually posed the question of what folks think about Workday. Which also, was premature to be asking, given implementation is just occurring. Not cool. I can see why folks commented. Plus Debra and gang are good people.
10:47 PM, July 06, 2015
Anonymous said...
10:47, this all seems to be the general M.O. of the folks who author this blog. It has been their approach from its inception.
10:59 PM, July 06, 2015
Roy Bauer said...
If you're going to accuse the authors of this blog of anything, be specific. Too many of you are hiding behind vagueness and anonymity. --RB
More comments added as they are posted....
11 comments:
How much did this cost?
I agree with 3:51. We all need to chill out and let Workday take its course. It may be a flop in the end. And we will find out why, exactly. But I applaud DTB for posting every comment, favorable or not. The more the merrier. That's how we will get a better picture of what's going on.
What's going on is that we are integrating a new system to help with college processes. It's never fun to adopt something new like this, but people need to give it time and understand that anything like this will come with its share of glitches. Think about when you download a new OS on your iphone -- sometimes they come with glitches! It happens and the road is bumpy and then it's fine. Be nice. It's hard work implementing something big and new like this. They don't need employees to make it harder and nit pick to death. Some people would rather us change nothing, ever. How do those people survive in this world?
It is easy for outsiders to complain about a process in which they work only on the fringes. I am what is considered a super user and while I have had my concerns---I have always had the ability to voice them in this process and in many cases I have seen the problem fixed or real changes made to Workday. It is a huge undertaking and involves the tiniest change involving jury duty time to huge multi account contracts. If you do not appreciate the work that has gone into such an undertaking, you do not really appreciate the work itself. Even with my concerns, I do plan to give this every opportunity and plan to continue to assist in that process. We cannot complain about systems and processes and procedures not working and then complain when there is a real attempt to make them work. Debra Fitzsimons has lead this charge and points to her for her attempts.....
Debra has led a lot of positive changes. It used to take 3-4 weeks to get my travel reimbursement check. Now, with the changes she made, my last check only took a day to get. That's really incredible. I was very happy about that. I do believe we will get there on this Workday project. She has been very effective. As well as all her staff.
Roy, you made it sound like selecting Workday was not done with thought and research. Like it is some fly by night company. It's not. It may have started with private companies before it went to the higher education market. So what. Many colleges and universities, from community colleges to universities like Chapman, Rutgers, and USC are using it. This was the most thought out and well run RFP process that I've seen. Couldn't have been more thorough, well-researched, and inclusive of all levels of employees before, during, and after.
Roy you should take a hint from the name WorkDay and try working a full day sometime.
People need to read better. Roy presented the information he got. Then added to it. Comments are part of the dialogue. The process has not gone smoothly. That's a fact. It doesn't feel like a good fit in some areas but this is difficult to express. The tendency is to assert a public triumph.
I do enjoy comments like "I love the system, I was able to submit my vacation time request from the beach." or the ones that mock the system without any real understanding of what it does or what it is attempting to do and even prior to really working with it as many of us do moment to moment. These are both light weight responses to a very robust system that needs work but ultimately will work with those helping it along. This was a huge undertaking so a little respect of what it took to get this far would be helpful.
12:13, I do not doubt that lots of people have worked very hard on this. And they do deserve to be appreciated.
I think the person who mentioned the beach was earnestly saying that it was great that he/she could APPROVE an employee's vacation remotely while at the beach.
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