Saturday, January 8, 2011

Tea and bullets



"Arizona has become a Mecca for prejudice and bigotry."
—Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik
(at a press conference today)

"Don’t Retreat; Instead – RELOAD!"
—Sarah Palin

"We’re paying particular attention to those House members who voted in favor of Obamacare and represent districts that Senator John McCain and I carried during the 2008 election... [W]e’re going to hold them accountable for this disastrous Obamacare vote. They are: Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-1), Harry E. Mitchell (AZ-5), Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8)...."
—Sarah Palin

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Completely predictable that such a sickening and awful thing would happen in that hateful state--which the media are ever so careful not to hint at, so far, it seems. I am sure there are enlightened and compassionate people in AZ, and I really feel for them--even more than I do for you guys down in Orange County.

MAH

MAH

Anonymous said...

This has backfired big time on the leftists. I hope they keep it up!

Anonymous said...

“Hateful state” Isn’t that a gross generalization? Are the people of AZ really hateful? Really?

BvT, As far as I’ve seen, the Tea Party and their events have been peaceful and they include people of all races that wish to petition their government, which last time I checked; it’s what citizens in America have a right to do.

How is it that you can so easily equate “Tea and bullets” then? First, the state-run media (not to mention, the administration itself) was trying to convince us that the Tea Partiers are racists. As we saw, that didn’t work out so well for them. The average person just didn’t buy it. Now they’ve been trying to exploit this violence by attempting to pin it on the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, et. al. That isn’t working either. Plus we’ve got an administration that’s going out of their way to censor political civil discourse; you gotta know that’s not healthy for a democracy.

How is it that an educated man like you has bought into these strange ideas they’ve been pushing? For the examples you illustrate here, we can easily find many more with the same if not worse heated rhetoric coming from the left and you know it.

Talk about cherry-picking, I'm just sayin......

Roy Bauer said...

5:07, one of our readers called Arizona a "hateful state." I did not.
It never occurred to me that this killing resulted in any direct or simple way from the actions of Sarah Palin or any particular group. Causation is not always a simple matter of X caused Y. An environment is created (and agency here is diffuse) in political discourse that makes violence more acceptable. There can be no doubt that Sarah Palin and many associated with the Tea Party (and, in general, the right) have contributed to that rhetorical environment. That cannot be said for the left. See that sign from a Tea Party on this post? These are utterly common when members of the right gather these days. This has been true for several years, and we have to a degree monitored that situation here on DtB. For instance, a year or so ago, we worried aloud what the "stupid people" would do next. I'm still worried.

Roy Bauer said...

Million Yahoo March

Anonymous said...

"That cannot be said for the left" (BvT)

Come on! Have you been asleep for 10 years or something? FAR WORSE comes from the left and you know it. They routinely cause riots, property damage, physical violence and anarchy in general – and the media always tries minimizing it, but fails because it’s so ubiquitous.

Remember that Tea Party demonstrator who got his finger bit-off by a leftist loon? What about all that “Bush & Cheney are Hitler” and “they should be killed” and they “hope Cheney drops dead of a heart attack” rhetoric? How about it Roy? They did that the full 8 years of the Bush term and you guys never complained about heated rhetoric then. How about all those countless hate-filled books and movies about President Bush? Come on Roy, wise up!

Why do you think MSNBC fired that hateful loon Kieth Oberman? Because they finally wised-up. Now they need to get rid of that Rachel Madow.

Anonymous said...

“Causation is not always a simple matter of X caused Y.” (BvT)

You are correct. So then why has Dupnik, members of the admin., fellow democrats, and all their media pals gone out of their way to make that inference and then ask for the rhetoric to be dialed-down? Because that’s exactly what they, themselves are doing; dialing up the rhetoric! Alinsky 101 What a divisive admin! And they should be ashamed of themselves; using this tragedy for political gain. Do they really think Americans are that stupid? Most people are not buying any of it, but I see you have, Roy.

Anonymous said...

2:06, I think you must be having a flashback to the '60's. Though I have friends who have individually made those violent comments about Cheney, et al, I've never witnessed that as part of the left's public discourse in this era. On the right, it's been ubiquitous.

BTW, I am the one who called Arizona a "hateful state," though I immediately pointed out that there are surely compassionate and lovely people therein. A state whose legislature bans by law the study of anything that might evoke "resentment" (e.g., race and ethnic studies) and shows so little understanding or concern for of the motives of immigrants does see to me to be "hateful."

Some generalizations are true, you know.

MAH

Anonymous said...

“2:06, I think you must be having a flashback to the '60's.” (MAH)

Great example! Ya know, the 60s when American families began seeing for themselves, all the lawlessness from the left every night, brought right to their family rooms via the evening news!

Roy Bauer said...

MAH, you can't argue with people who cannot reason. We do best ignoring them, I think.

Anonymous said...

The Left and bullets!

Watching the events unfold in Madison, WI. All that hateful rhetoric, effigies of the governor as Hitler, the governor shown in the crosshairs of a rifle scope, ad nausea… all coming from the left and advocating violence against an elected official! Where’s the reporting from the mainstream media? Where’s their call to dial down the rhetoric? Better yet, why hasn't Obama yet called for them to tone it down?

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