Tuesday, October 16, 2007

Deniers of the Armenian genocide

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In this morning’s Inside Higher Ed: Genocide Deniers
In the buildup to last week’s vote by a House of Representatives committee officially calling for U.S. foreign policy to recognize that a genocide of Armenians took place during World War I, at the behest of the “Young Turk” government of the Ottoman Empire, a flurry of advertising in American newspapers appeared from Turkey. ¶ The ads discouraged the vote by House members, and called instead for historians to figure out what happened in 1915. The ads quoted such figures as Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of state, as saying: “These historical circumstances require a very detailed and sober look from historians.” ….¶ Turkey’s government also has been quick to point American scholars (there are only a handful, but Turkey knows them all) who back its view that what’s needed with regard to 1915 is not to call it genocide, but to figure out what to call it, and what actually took place.

Normally, you might expect historians to welcome the interest of governments in convening scholars to explore questions of scholarship. But in this case, scholars who study the period say that the leaders of Turkey and the United States — along with that handful of scholars — are engaged in a profoundly anti-historical mission: trying to pretend that the Armenian genocide remains a matter of debate instead of being a long settled question…. ¶ …To those scholars of the period who accept the widely held view that a genocide did take place, it’s a matter of some frustration that top government officials suggest that these matters are open for debate and that this effort is wrapped around a value espoused by most historians: free and open debate…. ¶ …To many scholars, an added irony is that all of these calls for debating whether a genocide took place are coming at a time when emerging new scholarship on the period — based on unprecedented access to Ottoman archives — provides even more solid evidence of the intent of the Turkish authorities to slaughter the Armenians. This new scholarship is seen as the ultimate smoking gun as it is based on the records of those who committed the genocide — which counters the arguments of Turkey over the years that the genocide view relies too much on the views of Armenian survivors….
See also:
Is Trustee Frogue a Holocaust Denier?

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is a telegram from US Ambassador Morgenthau (ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, 1913-1916) to newly appointed US Secretary of State Robert Lansing:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/AmbassadorMorgenthautelegram.jpg

Maybe it's just me but "campaign of racial extermination" sure sounds like genocide!

Anonymous said...

Let's try that again:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/AmbassadorMorgenthautelegram.jpg

Anonymous said...

Oh....just go to wikipedia and search for "armenian genocide". It's there.

Anonymous said...

Didn't President Bush refer to Turks killing "Romanians" during his news conference this morning?

Anonymous said...

Think so. Are they wearing large external crosses and driving stakes through the Romanian's hearts? Maybe Dracula movies are just starting to become available in Turkey, and they really beleive that stuff. They don't call the place "Turkey" for nothing, you know!
Just got an idea. How about an army of mummies attacking the Turkish vampire killers? with tactical support of werwolf advisors? That would be a monster of a movie! A coffin buster!

Anonymous said...

Doesn't IVC have its own DRACULA?

Anonymous said...

Frankly, I am a Democrat and I am happy to have them in control of the congress again, however, this is stupid right now. First: end that insanse, needless, arrogant goddamn war in Iraq, and then Second: handle a few other more pressing things at home, and then, pass all the damn resolutions ya want about other people, but only after you do your other work.

Anonymous said...

BS 8:10. Congress is ineffective at most everything it attempts to accomplish. Certainly it will not end the war in Iraq anytime soon, nor address any of the "more pressing things at home" that you gloss over.

The fact is that there is genocide taking place as we speak. That this Democratically-led congress fails to put pressure on the Turkish government to admit genocide from 90 years ago sends a message to Sudan and others that genocide is a tolerable act where US economic interests are not involved. Both the US and EU could easily put pressure on Turkey to admit this--that would seem to be a far more reasonable task than curtailing Iran's or North Korea's nuclear programs.

So I must disagree with you. The failure of Congress to pass this resolution is anything but stupid and puts many populations across the globe at further risk of racial violence.

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