Tuesday, May 3, 2011

Teach methods, not beliefs

A prominent new OC billboard
     Our pal Matt Cocker reports that “An Orange County secular group has put up a billboard at a busy Huntington Beach corner informing atheists they do not walk alone in their lack of faith.” (See above.)
     Evidently, the group seeks to “spread[…] the idea of non-theism.”
     Do you suppose they just want to create a fun club of like-minded atheists?

     I don’t like the idea of promoting beliefs, including my own beliefs. I like promoting methods—such as scientific method and good, logical thinking, sans fallacies.
     Teach that. And where it goes, it goes.
     Be not afraid.

8 comments:

Clarissa said...

I find this billboard to be very comforting in a society that is more and more engulfed in a religious hysteria. A student of mine just submitted a truly heart-breaking essay about how her fundamentalist Christian family for years tried to force her into a religion she has no affinity with. The student is only 19, and I think something like this can be helpful for people like her.

Roy Bauer said...

Yes, I suppose it will be comforting to your student. Good.
But I can sympathize with the family. If I were to believe that my child was headed for eternal damnation, I'd press the matter pretty strongly myself.
Years ago, I had a good friend who was a devout Christian. It always annoyed me that he didn't care enough about me to try to save me from hell. He would have failed, but still....

Clarissa said...

Careful with that or you might attract crowds of people who'll "care" about you enough to try to save you in the most obnoxious ways possible.

Roy Bauer said...

Very true. I take it back!

Anonymous said...

But isn't it true that behind (or beneath) every method is a belief (in that method)?

Anonymous said...

What I mean is: you believe in the scientific method and good, logical, fallacy-free thinking (which is awesome!), but you have to have a *belief* in the scientific method and logic in order to promulgate the methods themselves. I think the line between "method" and "belief" becomes less distinct, more Derridean. I agree that method is preferable over dogma, but even methods have assumptive beliefs built in to them.

Roy Bauer said...

Well, I think it is at least odd to describe an embrace of scientific method as a belief. In any case, I do not approach teaching as the teaching of conclusions to familiar or important arguments. Rather, I teach an understanding of argumentation and (I hope) I foster an embrace of a method. I then apply the method to particular issues/problems. Now, it is possible for reasonable and honest people to disagree (at times) in application of the method. And I try never to forget that. And that is what I mean by saying that I do not teach beliefs. I will present an argument for some idea C and suggest that, by the methods we have learned, belief in C would seem to be warranted. If someone can show me that my application is faulty, I will adjust accordingly. The method is more fundamental than the beliefs that the method generates. Does embrace of the method entail holding particular beliefs? Sure. But they are beliefs on a different order.

Anonymous said...

Fair enough. And a good point: "The method is more fundamental than the beliefs that the method generates." I suppose I am just thinking here of someone like Paul Feyerabend, who has made persuasive and quite reasonable remarks "against method", saying a "farewell to reason", and pointing out "the tyranny of science", instead advocating (and teaching the method of, if possible) an "anarchistic epistemology".

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