Saturday, October 30, 2010

Recent comments paint a portrait

Thursday, October 28:

(From the last three posts.)

Anonymous said...
   Is that how it really works?
   Is it all about salaries and power?
   How did Wendy become one of them? (7:38 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Wendy used to be Crusader Rabbit – what happened? (8:40 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Williams resigning?
   To go where?
   Jail? (8:40 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Wendy worked her ass off to save this college by forcing an honest look at the place and writing an honest accreditation report. She did this after bringing administration, faculty, AND the Board of Trustees into the same room and making them not only talk, but actually work together. Now she gets smacked on this blog as some sort of sell out? Wake up! The sell outs are Glenn and Craig. Fuentes must be thrilled that they're back in the fold by icing out Wendy. (8:50 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   I personally will miss Williams' hair. I hope his replacement will have a coiffure that will sustain the proud tradition. (8:58 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Mathur is expected to run for the [board] seat. He has already been seen within the last week out on the political trail at Fuentes' side. You'll miss more than Williams' hair if that happens. (9:13 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   No one's suggesting that Wendy didn't work hard – she always has – but I think the question is about her motivation at this point.
   Clearly Wendy has been used – but she was [doing some] using too. (9:16 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Nooooooooo!
   This is all a Dissent Halloween spoof, right? (9:32 a.m.)
   [Nope.]
Anonymous said...
   The question is "motivation"? What's suspect about her motivation? She wanted to move into administration. She wanted some personal recognition and benefit from her hard work. Only in academia does that desire in any way call her "motivation" into question. (9:36 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   The concern I see expressed here is not about a desire to change jobs – but the perception that the process was corrupt, greased, made to order, a backroom deal – the exact kinda thing we've been complaining about for over a decade.
   Motivation might equal much more than what you added it up to. (9:44 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Let's remember that (1) for many years, Wendy really was our Crusader Rabbit and (2) if Anonymous' theory (re the rumored odd dean search development) is correct, she's been betrayed by her administrative handlers. She's been put out in the cold. –BvT (10:06 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Wendy's certainly out in the cold. Anybody seen her around here the last week? She even missed the accreditation exit interview! She's worked on accreditation for years . . . and missed the last day with the visiting team to hear what they had to say? That's amazing. Was she ordered to stay away by Glenn or Craig, one of her two rat bastard "administrative handlers"? What a shameful way to treat someone. (10:21 a.m.)


Anonymous said...
   She's betrayed herself – and a whole bunch of other people, you included BvT. (10:25 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   WHAT HAPPENED TO THE IVC DEAN OF PHSYICAL SCIENCES AND BIO????? (10:26 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   10:25—such a stickler! –BvT (10:36 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Schrader? Word is they're giving her the ol' heave ho. Opened her mouth once too often (10:38 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Guess that is what happens when you stop sleeping with your sponsor (12:13 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   ixnay on the eepslay, OK? —BvT (12:15 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Wow, Life at IVC is like living in a Raymond Chandler novel. Heheehe. (12:17 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   There really are two issues here: first, Wendy worked tirelessly to reinvent the Academic Senate and create an entity that Mathur and Roquemore had to acknowledge. In this regard her desire to enter administration is absolutely fine and is clearly warranted on its face. The second issue involves the hands in which she placed her trust: Wagner, Roquemore, and Justice. Wagner liked Wendy (maybe a little too much), Roquemore and Justice were just plain lazy and were happy to have a zealous intellect assembling the bones of a real college. The symbiosis fit perfectly. In so far as Roquemore had ambitions that would torpedo Wendy [it] is absolutely predictable. Behind that simpering smile is a vapid, hollow, self-promoting snake. Justice played along because he would end up the president of a good college where the intellectual infrastructure had already been built (by Wendy). The sadness of it all is that the entire thing was done by a wink and a nod and the players were … skunks. Wendy played with [fire] and got burned. Roqumore's nature is well-known, if anyone has a memory longer than six months. This little Greek tragedy could have no other ending…. All this happened without Fuentes or Mathur doing a thing. The culture of corruption is so deep and so murky at IVC that only the most naive would think the bad days are over. (12:31 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Let them eat pie. (12:42 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   When is Glenn going to retrieve his ***** from the jar on Kiana's desk and stop letting her run the show? I have looked through the window of the anatomy lab (wouldn't want to actually go in there!) and spotted what looked like a couple of spines hanging around. Perhaps the biologists would like to loan one to Glenn? (9:05 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   What is it with the chemistry department at IVC? (10:03 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   A "mouthy" woman can't be tolerated by our male leaders. That's what I heard. The guys can mouth off all they want, but not the gals.
About the male instructor whose open and public abuse of female students is tolerated by the same male leadership???
—Well, don't get me started! Through the years, I have had students crying … in my office. There's nothing to be done about it though. Everyone knows about it, makes excuses and protects him…. (11:13 p.m.)

Friday, October 29

Anonymous said...
   Glenn's losing it. [D’ya] think he's gone before Mathur comes back after replacing Williams, or will they save the pleasure of that vote for Mathur? Hell, we might have just found something that Mathur and Wagner can agree on. Glenn's gotta go. (12:24 a.m. Oct. 29)
Anonymous said...
   She wasn't obsequious. Got it. For you that remain, remember one thing: "No comments on bad hair days." I'm thinking you'll have a canning due! (6:39 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   That really takes the cake. (9:42 a.m.)
agent provocateur said...
   You guys have it all wrong! Didn't you read the comprehensive memo Glenn immediately sent out that clarified all this in order to avoid rumors and unnecessary mid-semester anxiety? 
You guys should really read your email instead of getting your panties in a bunch! (10:14 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Oh, those funny Bio people. (10:39 a.m.)
Captain Obvious said...
   * Did the Friday meeting—and jocularity—occur as described in this post? 

   * Did a secretary record the School meeting and then provide that recording to administration?
   * Did Glenn's reaction to listening to the recording inspire his untimely action to have her removed from campus (and on the day in which the Chem complex was opened)? (Note: the post acknowledged that it had long ago been decided that her contract would not be renewed.)

   * Has Kiana been (and is she) the sort who inappropriately and routinely uses her influence at this college?

   * Has her husband essentially permitted this behavior (for years, and despite complaints)?

   * Have scandalous improprieties been allowed by this and other administrations, despite efforts by some administrators to address the abuses?

—These and other questions strike me as valid. And clearly the most reasonable answers (given the evidence) of at least most, if not all, of these questions [are] disconcerting. (10:20 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   What memo? I didn't see any [stinkin’] explanatory memo from Glenn! (11:44 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   There was no memo. There never is. That's the point. Our leader does not know how to lead. Things just happen and they remain unexplained. (11:58 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Glenn and Craig get grief from the board, on this blog, and around the campus over stabbing a dean candidate in the back. Then, suddenly, a week later, Glenn/Craig fire a dean and create a dean job opening?
   Do they think we're idiots? Nothing to see here. Move along... (11:59 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Yeah, amazing who gets fired and who gets hired and who keeps getting along no matter what F*$!*** s@&+ comes out of their mouths. (3:13 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Does the administration regularly record school meetings? Just curious.
(I didn't get any informational memo from Glenn.) (3:32 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   “I pointed at the photo. ‘Can you eat this?’”
   Chunk, brilliant bit of surreal poetic imagery to go with the typically excellent prose stylings of your brand of investigative journalism. (3:36 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Remember all the bad, dangerous, loony corrupt behavior they tolerated from [Dean] Howard Gensler and [Dean Rodney Poindexter]?

 It's not a double standard – it's a triple double standard. (3:38 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   The administration records ALL meetings everywhere one way or another. (5:58 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   BvT—good job getting the rumors down in black and white and recounting some history that a lot of folks don't know or may have forgotten. That said, there is much more to the story than cake jocularity, a pissed husband, and an escort off campus (and I'm not talking about the political intrigue referred to in 11:59's remarks). If the full set of facts of this episode ever become fully public, the ensuing deconstruction will yield some useful lessons for this institution once the surprise wears off. (11:22 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   11:22, are you referring to (perhaps among other things) the alleged "violence" that occurred yesterday morning? I ain't buyin' it. People have been accused of "violence" in this district before. So I ain't buyin' it. (11:36 p.m.)

Saturday, October 30

Anonymous said...
   IVC's chemistry and physics departments are very famous. (8:24 a.m., Oct. 30)
Anonymous said...
   11:36—I am referring to facts, not rumors or allegations. Buy whatever you like of the rumors and allegations, but I would hope that once "the full set of FACTS" is available, we learn something useful from them, most importantly, that the situation is more complex than it appears. Not only do we need to interrogate the three main characters' judgment and behavior, we need to examine our own tendency to continually think inside the box. (8:37 a.m.)
agent provocateur said...
   People, just read the email memo that Glenn sent out – it explains everything. He's doing his best to quell rumors and restore our sense of confidence. That's his job. He's even announced the interim dean so there are no worries at this critical time for all the schools involved. Geez, do you think he would fire someone without having a plan in place?! (9:25 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Never, NEVER insult a woman's cake. 
(But I must say, pretty impressive cake baking skills from Kiana. I don't know how to bake one of those photo toppers...not that I want to eat a BLUE cake....) (9:33 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   9:25—There has been no general e-mail sent out to quell the campus-wide rumors and restore his campus-wide reputation. Perhaps something was sent out only to the affected schools? If so, it shows a lack of understanding of the ripple effect of events. —8:37 (10:19 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Are you sure there's been no email? (11:22 a.m.)
Anonymous said...
   I'm sure that I have not received an e-mail. —8:37 (12:13 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Shouldn't Glenn send out an email though? I mean, sudden disappearances of staff are a bit alarming no matter how you may feel about them (Wendy and Kathy). And if only "people in the know" know – well, that leaves the rest of us out of the loop. (12:17 p.m.)
Captain Irvine said...
   You have to have some connection with people to communicate with them and reassure them. Glenn leads like a piece of furniture. He's less useful though. (12:28 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   Never fear minions, even as we chatter, the succession goes forward. There is always a plan, an agenda. Nothing happens without reason and purpose. (2:03 p.m.)
B. von Traven said...
   Sounds like somebody cracked open a fortune cookie. (4:50 p.m.)

Remember that silly "bomb" scare?
RECENTLY ADDED COMMENTS:

Anonymous said...
   Well, my god! This is better than the two Netflix movies sitting on my buffet for the past month—maybe even better than Mad Men—and that is saying something.
   The creepiest thing of all, to me, in a sea of corruption and bad behavior and vice: a secretary secretly recording an informal conversation. I hope that someone will follow up THAT disgusting detail.
   My sympathies, as always, MAH (7:36 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   If Wendy got the job, it would have confirmed for many that the "fix" was indeed "in". Now Wendy didn't get the job and the dominant explanation involves, once again, intrigue. Has it occurred to anyone that perhaps, just perhaps, the process worked: i.e. the pool was excellent and highly competitive and the committee, acting independently, used its best judgment and forwarded the three best qualified candidates for the job? Is that even conceivable around here? There's no end to convoluted theories, but the simplest explanation may, in fact, be the truth. (9:35 p.m.)
Anonymous said...
   You're probably right, 9:35. After all, Mathur obviously would have tangled with Wagner over absolutely nothing, and the recent board unpleasantness was a figment of everyone's imagination, and BvT didn't accurately predict any fireworks at the board meeting, and a committee headed up by a PE guy who doesn't reveal the interview scores in violation of policy and made up of a foundation bean counter and student services big wig who spent most of the last few years in Sacramento is just a perfect "process" for figuring out what the office of instruction needs, and Glenn didn't suddenly fire a dean the same week he gets grief for stabbing Wendy in the back. Sure, 9:35, the simple answer that everything worked as expected is probably the right one. Of course it is.
   You're new around here, aren't you? (9:53 p.m.)
B. von Traven said...
   9:35, consider the facts that we know. Remember that Wagner, Roquemore, and Gabriella have long been close allies. Long before the dean position was advertised or even approved, we (and many others) fretted that the "fix was in." Then, over ferocious objections (one trustee asserted, "the fix is in"), the position was approved (owing to Wagner's manifest efforts), and the search went forward. Then, (as we understand it) Wendy discovers that she is not among the finalists (a week and a half ago), and then, soon thereafter, stories spread (they are very reliable) that Wagner is "hopping mad." A few days later, at the board meeting, he is still angry and his anger is clearly directed at Glenn Roquemore specifically.
   Now take a look at the job description for the dean position (note the reference to a JD [legal] degree); then consider the timing and the haste of the search. Further, an advertisement for the position "somehow" didn't properly get into the Chronicle. Etc.
   This is not a case of people insisting that the fix is in no matter what happens. Note also that our account is consistent with entirely professional behavior on the part of members of the search committee, who, as far as I know, did not draft the job description (certainly not without input from administration). (10:02 p.m.)

Anonymous said...
   The fact that the position did not get into the Chronicle is not evidence that the fix was in to support Wendy. It's exactly the opposite. That "oversight" delayed filling the position. There were other efforts at delay. The position was not opened the day after the contentious August special meeting when the board voted to approve it. HR "forgot." Really, that's what Teddi said. Also, the committee originally said it wouldn't have time to bring a recommendation before the October board meeting. All of this pushed off the hiring. It seems from the very start that an effort was made to delay the filing of the position in order to run the clock out on Wagner (and Wendy), not to hurry Wendy into the job. The process was not fair and no one would have caught Glenn at his Mathurian manipulations if he had been successful in getting just a few more weeks of delay. But because he wasn't, he panicked (like Mathur would do when pressured) and fired another dean to change the subject, or create another opening for Wendy, or satisfy his wife... Glenn's position is increasingly untenable the more one looks at this. (10:41 p.m.)
B. von Traven said...
   10:41, I'm not entirely sure where you're coming from, but I gather you have a theory according to which Glenn is not (and has not been?) an ally of Wendy and Wagner but, rather, is a partisan of Mathur/Fuentes? Not sure.
   The circumstantial evidence (I won't go through it again) suggests that a quick and dirty kind of search was afoot; this was undone to an extent by vigilant observers/participants (bear in mind that many people are involved). It is entirely possible, I suppose, that Fuentes' crew had its own machinations that aimed at "running out the clock"—so that the hire would occur after Wagner's exodus. I have no knowledge of that.
   We've never claimed to know why Wendy was not forwarded to the second level, though we did note one reader's theory, which seems to be taken seriously by some "observers." I am inclined to think that Wagner/Roquemore/Gabriella were happily allied until fairly recently; and then, for some reason, an expected action was not taken (or an unexpected action was taken), the result of which was that Wendy was not forwarded; and this went mightily against Wagner/Gabriella. It appears that Roquemore acted in some way to undo [prevent] something Wagner/Wendy expected would occur. Hence the anger and Sturm und Drang.
   Some have embraced the "theory" that Schrader's firing is tied to all of this: it created an administrative opening for Wendy. But if Schrader was fired to make room for Wendy, it's a pretty risky plan, for if Muldoon wins the trustee seat next week (it looks like even money to me), Fuentes will likely have control of a board majority by December—at which point there's no way that Wendy will be approved for any permanent hire (for Fuentes' embraces Mathur's view of Wendy and faculty generally). This theory doesn't add up for me.
   Perhaps all we become clear at some point. Who knows. (11:24 p.m.)

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well, my god! This is better than the two Netflix movies sitting on my buffet for the past month--maybe even better than *MadMen*--and that is saying something.

The creepiest thing of all, to me, in a sea of corruption and bad behavior and vice: a secretary secretly recording an informal conversation. I hope that someone will follow up THAT disgusting detail.

My sympathies, as always,

MAH

Anonymous said...

If Wendy got the job, it would have confirmed for many that the "fix" was indeed "in". Now Wendy didn't get the job and the dominant explanation involves, once again, intrigue. Has it occurred to anyone that perhaps, just perhaps, the process worked: i.e. the pool was excellent and highly competitive and the committee, acting independently, used its best judgment and forwarded the three best qualified candidates for the job? Is that even conceivable around here? There's no end to convoluted theories, but the simplest explanation may, in fact, be the truth.

Anonymous said...

You're probably right, 9:35. After all, Mathur obviously wold have tangled with Wagner over absolutely nothing, and the recent board unpleasantness was a figment of everyone's imagination, and BvT didn't accurately predict any fireworks at the board meeting, and a committee headed up by a PE guy who doesn't reveal the interview scores in violation of policy and made up of a foundation bean counter and student services big wig who spent most of the last few years in Sacramento is just a perfect "process" for figuring out what the office of instruction needs, and Glenn didn't suddenly fire a dean the same week he gets grief for stabbing Wendy in the back. Sure, 9:35, the simple answer that everything worked as expected is probably the right one. Of course it is.

You're new around here, aren't you?

Roy Bauer said...

9:35, consider the facts that we know. Remember that Wagner, Roquemore, and Gabriella have long been close allies. Long before the dean position was advertised or even approved, we (and many others) fretted that the "fix was in." Then, over ferocious objections (one trustee asserted, "the fix is in"), the position was approved (owing to Wagner's manifest efforts), and the search went forward. Then, (as we understand it) Wendy discovers that she is not among the finalists (a week and a half ago), and then, soon thereafter, stories spread (they are very reliable) that Wagner is "hopping mad." A few days later, at the board meeting, he is still angry and his anger is clearly directed at Glenn Roquemore specifically.
Now take a look at the job description for the dean position (note the reference to a JD [legal] degree); then consider the timing and the haste of the search. Further, an advertisement for the position "somehow" didn't properly get into the Chronicle. Etc.
This is not a case of people insisting that the fix is in no matter what happens. Note also that our account is consistent with entirely professional behavior on the part of members of the search committee, who, as far as I know, did not draft the job description (certainly not without input from administration).

Anonymous said...

The fact that the position did not get into the Chronicle is not evidence that the fix was in to support Wendy. It's exactly the opposite. That "oversight" delayed filling the position. There were other efforts at delay. The position was not opened the day after the contentious August special meeting when the board voted to approve it. HR "forgot." Really, that's what Teddi said. Also, the committee originally said it wouldn't have time to bring a recommendation before the October board meeting. All of this pushed off the hiring. It seems from the very start that an effort was made to delay the filing of the position in order to run the clock out on Wagner (and Wendy), not to hurry Wendy into the job. The process was not fair and no one would have caught Glenn at his Mathurian manipulations if he had been successful in getting just a few more weeks of delay. But because he wasn't, he paniced (like Mathur would do when pressured) and fired another dean to change the subject, or create another opening for Wendy, or satisfy his wife... Glenn's position is increasingly untenable the more one looks at this.

Roy Bauer said...

10:41, I'm not entirely sure where you're coming from, but I gather you have a theory according to which Glenn is not (and has not been?) an ally of Wendy and Wagner but, rather, is a partisan of Mathur/Fuentes? Not sure.
The circumstantial evidence (I won't go through it again) suggests that a quick and dirty kind of search was afoot; this was undone to an extent by vigilant observers/participants (bear in mind that many people are involved). It is entirely possible, I suppose, that Fuentes' crew had its own machinations that aimed at "running out the clock"--so that the hire would occur after Wagner's exodus. I have no knowledge of that.
We've never claimed to know why Wendy was not forwarded to the second level, though we did note one reader's theory, which seems to be taken seriously by some "observers." I am inclined to think that Wagner/Roquemore/Gabriella were happily allied until fairly recently; and then, for some reason, an expected action was not taken (or an unexpected action was taken), the result of which was that Wendy was not forwarded; and this went mightily against Wagner/Gabriella. It appears that Roquemore acted in some way to undo something Wagner/Wendy expected would occur. Hence the anger and Sturm und Drang.
Some have embraced the "theory" that Schrader's firing is tied to all of this: it created an administrative opening for Wendy. But if Schrader was fired to make room for Wendy, it's a pretty risky plan, for if Muldoon wins the trustee seat next week (it looks like even money to me), Fuentes will likely have control of a board majority by December--at which point there's no way that Wendy will be approved for any permanent hire (for Fuentes' embraces Mathur's view of Wendy and faculty generally). This theory doesn't add up for me.
Perhaps all we become clear at some point. Who knows.

Anonymous said...

Well, at least Wendy will have some dean job. Whew.

Anonymous said...

9:53 You evidently have a high opinion of yourself and are therefore allowed to judge others.
The "PE" guy happens to be well-respected for his honesty and fairness on this campus. The committee was made up of 4 Deans, 3 Directors, a faculty member, and 2 Classified employees, and fairly represented "participatory governance". With respect to the "bean counter from the foundation", this gentleman has a Masters Degree and 30 years of business experience, including being a CEO of a major company, so do your "homework" before questioning the capabilites of the committee members.

Anonymous said...

I'm so confused.

Is Wendy the new dean of Math, Physical Sciences and Bio?

Did Glenn send a memo or not?

Anonymous said...

Perhaps your confusion was inspired by 8:22's peculiar remark, which flew in the face of what I had just written (I argued that Wendy would not replace Schrader).
As far as we know, Wendy will not be replacing Schraeder. --BvT

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