Sunday, March 9, 2008

Quaker oaths

.....Gosh, I remember having to sign a "loyalty oath" back in the late 70s when I worked for UC. Most of us took great offense to that.
....."What if we don't sign?"
....."Then you don't work."
....."Oh."
.....We signed.
....."Waddya gonna do?" we said.

From the San Francisco Chronicle: Pacifist Cal State teacher gets job back:
.....A Cal State East Bay math teacher and practicing Quaker who was fired for refusing to sign a state-required loyalty oath got her job back this week, with an apology from the university and a clarification that the oath does not require employees to take up arms in violation of their religious beliefs.
....."It's the best possible outcome," said Marianne Kearney-Brown, 50, a graduate student in mathematics who was teaching a remedial class for undergraduates. "My concerns have been addressed."
.....As a Quaker, Kearney-Brown is committed to nonviolence and was unwilling to sign the state oath of allegiance that required her to "swear (or affirm)" that she would "support and defend" the U.S. and California constitutions "against all enemies, foreign and domestic." She tried inserting the word "nonviolently" in front of the word "support," but was told by university officials that altering the oath was unacceptable.
.....…In a grievance hearing Thursday conducted in a telephone conference call, an attorney for the California State University chancellor's office presented Kearney-Brown with a statement saying in part, "Signing the oath does not carry with it any obligation or requirement that public employees bear arms or otherwise engage in violence."
.....With that statement stapled to the loyalty oath, and a promise by the university to present the clarifying language to other new employees, Kearney-Brown said Friday that she felt comfortable signing the form and returning to work.
....."We're very happy with the results," said Clara Potes-Fellow, a spokeswoman for the CSU chancellor's office. "The university would very much like her to be an employee. ... We were acting in good faith, and we wanted to resolve the situation in a positive way."….

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

really? You had to sign a loyalty oath?

Anonymous said...

I can't believe this still goes on.

Anonymous said...

Yep boys and girls, we all do have to still sign some stupid loyalty oath. Even I had to do it, & I'm just a T.A. at a local elementry school district. The person who was administering it to me also thought it was assinine, but I just went through the protocol. I'm going to do whatever I'm going to do anyway w/in reason.:-)

Anonymous said...

P.S. I guess deep down I am still Rebel Jr. at heart. I may be getting older, but getting worse.:-)

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