Sunday, December 16, 2007

More Jesus glasses

THE STORY about the Capo Valley High School teacher slamming religion—the Times broke it on Thursday—seems to be getting hotter, what with the likes of Bill "red meat" O’Reilly climbing all over it. Even UCI's Erwin "no meat" Chemerinsky has weighed in, saying the lawsuit against the teacher is not likely to prevail.

The OC Reg provides a link to the complaint (a pdf file). Presumably, this is the suit against the teacher/district filed recently in federal court.

Hey, those darned kids down at CAPO VAL are already protesting. And on a SUNDAY! Check out this pic:

(Actually, this is fake. On the other hand, this scene is genuinely in my head.)

From Thursday’s LA Times: Lawsuit targets history teacher's comments:

.....A San Juan Capistrano high school student and his parents filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday alleging that his history teacher violated his constitutional rights by making "highly inappropriate" and offensive statements in class regarding Christianity.
.....James Corbett, who teaches Advanced Placement European history at Capistrano Valley High School, consistently "demonstrates a sense of hostility toward religion," causing Christian students to "feel ostracized and treated as second-class citizens," according to the lawsuit filed in federal district court in Santa Ana by Chad Farnan, 16, and his parents, Bill and Teresa.
.....The lawsuit contends, among other things, that Corbett told students during class that "when you put on your Jesus glasses, you can't see the truth"; said that religion is not "connected with morality"; compared Christians to "Muslim fundamentalists" who want women to "stay pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen and have babies until your body collapses"; and suggested that churchgoers are more likely to commit rape and murder.
.....…Teresa Farnan said her suspicions were aroused on the first day of school when her son—a sophomore honors student required to take Corbett's class for college admission—asked her whether America was founded on Christian values, which he said his teacher had denied.
....."He had learned in the eighth grade that our country was founded by persecuted Christians," said the mother, who describes her family as nondenominational Christian, "so I sent him to school with a tape recorder."
.....During the next two months, Chad Farnan said, he taped Corbett's lectures with the recorder in plain sight on his backpack.
.....…Eventually the Farnans contacted Advocates for Faith and Freedom, a nonprofit organization based in Murrieta dedicated to "protecting religious liberty," a spokeswoman said.
.....…"The teacher is a representative of the state and the Constitution requires government neutrality toward religion," [attorney Jennifer Monk] said. "This teacher's conduct and words clearly show he is hostile toward religion and is indoctrinating these kids, who are a captive audience."

From Friday’s OC Register: Teacher's religion remarks spark lively community debate:

.....…Many of Corbett's current and former students have rushed to his defense, saying he not only had the right to criticize traditional Christian viewpoints on topics such as birth control, teenage sex and homosexuality, but that his talks forced students to think critically about their own views….
....."I don't agree with everything he says, but that's not the point," said Capistrano Valley High graduate Erica Bashaw, 18, now a freshman at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. "Can you tolerate someone saying something that you don't agree with? Can you have a fiery debate about ideas? It scares me that that's not acceptable."
.....…Some student supporters wore handmade T-shirts to school Friday with messages such as "Keep Corbett." And dozens of Corbett's current and former students are planning a rally at 7 a.m. Wednesday at the high school to show their support for him.

....."Corbett has been a powerful reminder to me that we 'Christians' do not have the monopoly on truth," Capistrano Valley High geography and history teacher Tom Airey wrote in the Orange County Register's opinion section. "… In an age where there is probably too much emphasis on teaching to the standards and getting 'the facts' right, Corbett is training young students to think critically."
.....At issue in the lawsuit is whether Corbett violated the separation of church and state as outlined in the First Amendment's establishment clause. Court papers cite statements tape-recorded by Farnan such as "From conservative Christians in this country to Muslim fundamentalists in Afghanistan … it's stunning how vitally interested they are in controlling women" and "When you put on your Jesus glasses, you can't see the truth."
.....…"He's only giving one side – that's not thinking critically at all," said Farnan, 16, who does not plan to attend his AP European History class again until Corbett is removed. "This might be a college-level class, but it's in high school, so he doesn't have the same rights."
.....…"All of his opinions would have been fine with us if he had invited opposing points of view and the class was actually debating," said parent Birgit O'Hearn, 46, of Mission Viejo, who pulled her daughter out of Corbett's class this year. "But the opinions he was putting forth are not opinions that are worthy of an instructor."
.....…The case also has sparked disagreement among legal scholars about its merits and chance of success.
.....UC Irvine's new law dean, Erwin Chemerinsky, who has litigated several high-profile church vs. state lawsuits on the secular side, thinks the lawsuit is "very unlikely to succeed," he said.
....."Court will be very reluctant to open the door to students suing when they find the teachers' speech objectionable," Chemerinsky said….

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Did he get those specs at LensCrafters?

Anonymous said...

I hear that he's considering laser surgery - there's a great outfit near Saddleback that does a fine job.

Anonymous said...

I think the frames are unflattering.

Anonymous said...

More Register stuff today. Mike Carona election support included donations from Adam Probolosky, Mark H. Cheung, Mary-Aileen Matheis, and Howard J. Klein. All members, along with the mouthpiece for the Public Affairs office for the OC Sheriff, of the IVC Foundation Board of Governors.

Navid said...

Wow- I just discovered this blog. As a graduate of IVC and as someone who is en route to attend grad school, I've just found an amazing addition to my blogroll!

Although I never got the honor to attend classes with one of you guys, you guys rock!

Anonymous said...

Let it rain!

Roy Bauer said...

4:38--

That's what I love about our "critics." You never have to refute them. All you've gotta do is wait for them to say something!

Anonymous said...

What would Jesus do?

Regarding the rain, and 4:38's wish for it, I mean.

Anonymous said...

Uh, er, I think Jesus was a critical thinker who didn't wish harm on anyone.

Anonymous said...

You presume wrong, infidels. I am Muslim. Let it rain. Allāhu Akbar

Anonymous said...

This Chad fellow is like any of the little shits we get in classes, who hate to think and hate being challenged. What a little snot.

Anonymous said...

stupid high school kids

Anonymous said...

ya that chad is failing the class and is taking easy way out by sueing cause hes to narrow minded to accecpt any ideas other than his own. I know Dr. Corbett and he is a good man, that class is one of the best i have even taken in my life.

Anonymous said...

8:48, is your posting a JOKE? Hard to tell--you don't pull it off well, if it is. On the other hand, if it's not, is your entry typical of what AP is producing these days? No wonder our UC faculty would like to do away with AP considerations at all. Maybe too much texting and too little reading. You may not think spelling matters--but you're in the company of those who think it does!

Anonymous said...

Chad is a hero. It's time we have wholesale change in our public school system. Out with the secular socialists.

Anonymous said...

A "hero"?! Are you insane? He's a smarmy little religious fanatic who hates a challenge. Send him off to some religious institution where he can be force fed his mythology.

Fuck the little prick.

Anonymous said...

the oc register is so baised against Dr. Corbett on the rally, check out the LA times one
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-protest20dec20,1,6658476.story?coll=la-editions-orange

Also fuck spelling, this is the internet where i can mispel as moch as i wan to. and why the hell do u care about what other people do and how they post, i bet want us to go to church or wash our hands or say please. We'll live our way while your live yours

And that class was great cause it is being taught by a great man. Hes extremely intelligent and has done many things in his life like being a journalist in the middle east while trying to stay alive in a bomb shelter, and survive a robbers attempt at stealing his possesions, avoiding a mass kidnapping of the journalists, wrestle a bear, punch his footbal coach and showing he was the more mature one, etc. the list can go on and on

Anonymous said...

Out of like 250 people, only 5 supported Chad, one being that pastor guy

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