Aug 28, 2009

Yorba Linda, California: When Past is Prologue, and Pickled

Dissenters Attend George McGovern Book Event at Nixon Library…’Cuz We Like Irony…and Gore Vidal, Too (as the Egyptian God Ra)

By Red Emma

Photo: OC Weekly

HARD TO KNOW whether to envy or pity the poor boob who stood up Wednesday night and interrupted Gore Vidal’s introduction of former Senator George McGovern, there to promote his book on Lincoln. Red Emma and Rebel Girl and the apple of their eyes sat in the front row of the mock East Room of the White House with sexy Ace Reporter Gal.

Careful observers will notice that the Authentic has trouble, always, overcoming the Spectacular. There we sat, in Nixon's Library in Yorba Linda while also sitting in the elegance of D.C., where the genuine struggled, but triumphed. We waited an hour, with my seven year old, clever lad, passing the time reading “Calvin and Hobbes,” his latest passion. Golly, he is a smart boy. Takes after his mother.


Suddenly a young, handsome man wheeled in an old, handsome man and somebody, I think it was me, stood up and began an ovation which lasted at least 3 minutes. Gore Vidal was recognized immediately by it seemed a majority of the audience beyond this fan, and the others either thought, boy, George McGovern isn’t doin’ too hot these days or maybe just went along for the hurrah. It was exciting.

The Grand Man of Letters seemed to enjoy the reception, wanting to stand to acknowledge it. He couldn’t raise himself from the wheelchair, which he’s been in for some years. Happily, weirdly, he was soon lifted three feet in the air by a sturdy little ADA-required elevator right there in the pretend finery, Teddy Roosevelt’s portrait on the wall, up to the riser where he sat until McGovern and director Timothy Naftali arrived to more applause. T.R. only looked on, bull-moosely.

As an aside, I’ll observe that Naftali, a gifted scholar and seemingly really nice guy, bears an uncanny resemblance to, no, not Nixon himself, but to Harry Shearer, humorist, “Saturday Night Live” writer and NPR “Le Show” host and hard-core Nixonophile doing the Tricky One. Weird. But…fun!

After his generous remarks, including noting the death of Senator Kennedy and the half-mastery of Old Glory and the need to celebrate the work of the Library (governmental, nonpartisan, based on fact) and also the Nixon Foundation (private rich people, partisan, silly — my words, not his), Naftali explained that he had indeed invited Gore Vidal, Lincoln scholar and McGovern contemporary and remarked (the evening’s theme, sort of) on the lovely irony of these two liberals right here in Nixonland.

Vidal accepted more applause and offered his own reliable drollery and wit, which got big laughs and then suggested he would read “some pages” from Bernard Shaw, proceeding to read the (no surprise here) ironic and instructive (if you were listening) prologue to the Fabian Socialist’s play “Caesar and Cleopatra.”

So, to review. We were assembled forty years later in a faux East Room in Yorba Linda, at the real and yet also phony library with the liberal anti-war candidate McGovern who was victimized by Nixon and his gang and voted down by the frightened and not at all silent majority of ’72 AND with the essayist-novelist-playwright-candidate Vidal, two legends who survived to reappear together on the day Ted Kennedy died, as the USA killed on and on in Iraq and Afghanistan and a moderate First Black American President struggled with Blue Dogs and gun nuts and “birthers” at town hall meetings on health care “reform” of a system which is basically a gift to the industry.


I could go on, but you get the idea. (And if not, you never will, pal.)

Oh, and did I mention that I was wearing my “I Don’t Care if He’s Dead, I Still Want to Impeach Nixon” t-shirt? And that Ace Reporter Gal wore a vintage button, “Kiss Me…I Voted for McGovern”?

In case you haven’t read “Caesar and Cleopatra” lately, I’ll summarize, briefly. Old Ra, wearing his funky Egyptian hawk’s head helmet appears. We are in Memphis. He talks to us, his modern audience, scoldingly. It’s a warning, a cautionary tale based on the political choices of old and new Rome, between the soldier Pompey (“The way of the soldier is the way of death”) and Caesar, whom the gods seemed to dig. Pompey, who represents “Mammon” (and, for our purposes, Northrup Grumman and McDonnell Douglass) makes war on Caesar, who runs away to learn a lesson from the gods, eventually gathers his wisdom and beats Mammon’s army, which runs off to Egypt, which is basically a colony of Rome.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Bush-Cheney, get it? Hubris, war, empire. Lucius Septimius seems to embrace Pompey in Sphinxville, but instead “welcomed him with one hand and with the other smote off his head, and kept it as it were a pickled cabbage to make a present to Caesar.” Wow, sauerkraut!


Now, friends, if you were lucky enough to be sitting in the audience at this remarkable occasion on a summer evening in the waning days of our own pickled empire, waiting to hear from the man who should have beaten the war criminal, and were, yes, being read to by one of the greatest thinkers, writers in the history of our republic, wouldn’t you, like me, count yourself a pretty lucky duck, soak it up, be enthralled and feel just a little bit of, okay, hope for us all?

Not the boob. He stood up from the tenth row, and interrupted Gore Fucking Vidal! “With all due respect, Mr. Vidal…” he began. Some members of the audience, expressing their own boobery, applauded in seeming consent. Vidal only smiled, as if he had organized the whole thing, as if he had orchestrated not only the moment that we saw, but the moment, now, of the silly man, and what would follow.

The sly and wise old dude waited for the crowd to settle back down, and resumed. He just kept reading, as, of course the Big Moral had arrived, Bernard Shaw’s timing and Vidal’s own seeming to anticipate the chucklehead:

“Are ye impatient with me? Do ye crave for a story of an unchaste woman? And what I am about to show you for the good of your souls is how Caesar, seeking Pompey in Egypt, found Cleopatra; and how he received that present of a pickled cabbage that was on the head of Pompey; and what things happened between the old Caesar and the child queen…All this ye shall see; and ye shall marvel, after your ignorant manner, that men twenty centuries ago were already just such as you, and spoke and lived as ye speak and live, no worse and no better, no wiser and no sillier.”

I kid you not. That’s how it happened, with Vidal completing the passage and the goof revealed as a sort of unknowing actor in the Great Man’s dramaturgy. Vidal is a playwright, after all. He got another big applause at the end. Some people got it, some didn’t, and then McGovern took the podium. He made some good cracks himself, including thanking Vidal and noting that, of all the events he’d read at lately, it was this one, at the Nixon Library, where circumstance and history conspired to get the introducer a standing ovation. I looked over in the direction of Mr. Interrupter, lost in the crowd but gifted at least with an embarassing story to tell his friends and family, about being both a player and an object lesson.

Senator McGovern offered his thoughts on Lincoln, all solid and entertaining and thoughtful, including his observations about Lincoln’s own personal challenges (clinical depression, as the South Dakota senator’s own doomed daughter) and pointed out all that Abe got done while trying to save the union, and admired Lincoln’s writing, too. I think C-SPAN might have got all this for broadcast, which you can view I hope after reading my color commentary.

Then, during the Q & A, sexy Ace Reporter Gal sprang up to ask a question about McGovern’s recollections of Ted Kennedy. She got him to tell some pretty darn sweet stories. And afterwards, we three waited while she got in line to get McG’s signature. I watched the crowd assembled around Vidal’s wheelchair, a dozen people wanting to shake his hand. I wondered if Interrupter might apologize, but he had gone off to audition for some other performance as stooge in life’s rich pageant, perhaps to ask Yo-Yo Ma not to play so loud.

Sexy Ace Reporter Gal peppers the speaker with sexy, ace questions

My little boy shook the old peace candidate’s hand while I tried to identify all the names of “benefactors” of the foundation and library (more fun) and tried to make sense of the weird shit for sale in the gift shop, including a t-shirt with Tricky Dick’s face and the question “What Would Nixon Do”? I wondered who bought that, and I wondered about the occasion when they might find themselves looking down at their chest to ask themselves that. Answer: Smear Jerry Voorhees, red-bait Helen Gahagan Douglas, develop a racist “Southern strategy,” bomb a country illegally, start an enemies list, beat up Pat, spy on Dan Ellsberg, get drunk with Kissinger, resign in disgrace, like that. Hmmm.

Limber Lou meets B-17 pilot and great guy George McGovern

We stuck around long enough to take in the fountain outside and enjoy the warm night, congratulating ourselves on being part of a generous civic moment, then went to Mimi’s for dinner. I had fish’n’chips and a cold Newcastle Brown Ale in a tall glass. At the intersection of Yorba Linda Boulevard and Imperial Highway on the way home we read the flashing Cal-Trans-style sign which warned, over and over, “Coyote Alert.” (They have, it seems, pretty alert coyotes out there in the Yorba that’s linda.) And what, friends, is that stretch of Imperial (SR 90) called, which we were helpfully reminded as we departed to our canyon home? The Richard Nixon Parkway.


From the conclusion of the “Caesar and Cleopatra” prologue:

“And fear not that I shall speak to you again: the rest of the story must ye learn from them that lived it. Farewell; and do not presume to applaud me.”

Peace out!

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dang! I obviously missed a great event. Excellent, witty commentary, ol' Red.

KateD said...

I love the juxtaposition of the Commentator trying to speak and Mr. Vidal reading right on through. I now know why people write LOL on their text messages: I did.

Anonymous said...

The only thing that amazes me about this delightful tale is that there was but one boob.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for a super report, Red!

Janet said...

You captured it Red! Great night on the Commons-Touring our pickled cole sprawl empire with Coyote Alert-ly letting sleeping dog Milhous and his wooden Pat lie beneath the roses while We took the House Back, the Old Master Goring All with Shavian shavings of an old pickled Empire, (Ra rah!) while Bob McNewhart smiled angelically and spoke of the Great Depression that preserved the Greatest of Unions-If the Rebs and the Yanks could Make It, I guess we can too-Peaceniks do Yorba Linda! Solidarity Forever =) XO, Sexy Ace Reporter Gal

Leightongirl said...

Speechless.

Anonymous said...

Good to see some of Red's work again!

Wayne said...

Red Emma:

Great article. Took me there and also made me sad for not being there in person, boob and all. How does McGovern's bio of Lincoln look?

Do post on tonight's Billy Bragg concert.

SarahW said...

This is a really good article.

You should get in touch with the bizymoms Yorba-linda community.

Uh-oh, Nazis in the SOCCCD

SOCCCD BOARD MEETING: June 15, 1998
By Chunk Wheeler (aka Roy Bauer)
From the Vine, 6/21/98

I. 6:00


Amid considerable hallway noise, Maryanne Wardlaw of the Irvine World News was interviewing Michael Collins Piper as he awaited the start of the district board meeting. Stealth employee X approached with a tape recorder and preserved the following for posterity:

PIPER: May I see that [one of Roy Bauer’s handouts], please?...I would like to look at it...[Finishing his thought:] --In any case, I thought it would be nice if I would be able to come to the college and say something....

WARDLAW: Why now?

P: Why now? Because it was the first time that was convenient for me to do it, and I just got so tired of hearing all this nonsense, so I thought it would be something that I should do...No particular reason for this date...These things have continued...I thought, ‘Well, I should go out there.’ You know, I get tired of hearing, you know, ...

W: Do you live in the area?

P: No, I live in Washington, D.C.

W: Did you come out here for this?

P: Yes, I did, yeah.

EMPLOYEE X: Who paid your way?

P: Who paid my way? Uh, it was paid for by my employer.

W: Who do you work for?

P: Liberty Lobby.

X: What’s Liberty Lobby?

P: Uh, it’s, uh, it was established in 1955. We call it a “populist” institution.

X: What’s it about?

P: What’s it about? It publishes a weekly newspaper called the Spotlight. We say it’s for America first, for the Constitution. Obviously--may I ask who you are?

X: My name’s (X). I’m an employee of the college.

P: Oh, and what part of the college are you employed by?

X: I’m a (...).

P: And, uh, are you here--In what capacity are you in here with the tape recorder--Dare I ask?

X: (I’m here because) I’m interested.

P: Oh!

X: I’m a citizen. I pay taxes, and I’m interested.

P: OK.

X: My day ends at 4:30 at the college and I have a right like everybody else—

P: OK, I’m just curious. I mean, that’s, yeah...I’m surprised you don’t know the details then; you’re not...

X: I know everything.

P: You know everything.

X: Everything...I’ve been here listening to all this all from the start--from when Mr. Frogue started this.

P: Wait a minute. Mr. Frogue didn’t start this. That’s where the problem comes in...

My opinion is that I wrote a book. I accepted an invitation to speak at this college. I never heard of Saddleback College in my life, and frankly at this point I wish I never had. But the bottom line of it is I was invited to speak here and I accepted this invitation, and the next thing I know all of a sudden it’s in the newspapers. And did I call these newspapers up? I didn’t call those newspapers up. Who called those newspapers up? Your friend Roy Bauer. Did he call the newspapers?

X: I would imagine a lot of people...I don’t know why you’re directing--why Roy Bauer...?

P: There was this--just all of a sudden there was this great commotion on campus. Students came running out of their classrooms saying, ‘We must stop Mike Piper from speaking!’--is that it?

X: I think there were a lot of students. I think there were classified staff, and I believe there were faculty and...administrators that felt that way [namely, that Piper’s participation in the forum was a problem].

P: Do you think there were people like Chancellor Lombardi who thought there was a problem with it?

X: I never spoke to Chancellor Lombardi. If he didn’t [think there was a problem], I’m sure he should have.

P: I read that he said that he was concerned about--that it was a matter of free speech.

X: You have to speak to Lombardi.

P: That’s what I read in the paper. Now, are you saying that I can’t trust the papers?

X: I never said that. You’re putting words in my mouth. I didn’t put words in your mouth.

P: I know, I asked you...

X: You know what? She’s [i.e., Maryanne’s] the one that’s interviewing you. I’m gonna let (mixed voices)...I heard you talking and I wanted to—

P: You’re standing here with a tape recorder. Could I take your picture?

X: No.

P: Well, then, you can’t tape.

X: Fine. (X abruptly shuts off the recorder.)

II. GOOD LORD, IT’S FROGUETTE!

Early in the meeting, brand spanking new student Trustee Marie HILL addressed the board/audience with rhetoric that managed to combine gooeyness, offensiveness, and cluelessness:

HILL:...As students we look to you...as our mentors...It distresses my fellow students as well as myself the infighting that’s going on between the two factions here...It is analogous to parents fighting...At least [indecipherable] if they cannot resolve their differences...If all else fails, they can get a divorce. But what do the children do?

We, your students, are the same as the children in this relationship as you all hash out [indecipherable]. We are taught, we are protected, by you. We are stuck in the middle, and we don’t have [indecipherable]. We need both of our parents--we need you both, we need you all, and we need you all to come together, to work together for us, the students. It is unfair for any one group to ask us to [indecipherable]. No child could do that.

I’ve had [...?] Saturday morning. Every time I pick up the Orange County Register and I see an article about this district, it is like giving up your morning and seeing your mother on Jerry Springer. And I’m tired of it. I know the students are tired of it, OK? As a matter of fact, I believe that Ms. [Kimberly] Kindy [of the Register] probably (should?) audition for a writer on the Jerry Springer show. The story’s (biased?). It appears to be one-sided. I don’t see the balance. If there is a balance, I would like to see it. Maybe she should be a writer on the Jerry Springer show. [Note: Kindy was sitting only ten feet away.]

The faculty and administrators (ought to?) stop dredging up and rehashing the things they...hash over and over. We understand...that the faculty is unhappy; we understand that the administrators are unhappy. But we need you both. We realize the academic portion needs to have freedom to teach. We also understand the need for accountability from our administrators. But we can’t do it with a broken home. We need you to come together to (?).

If it is so very bad for any one of us, be it faculty or administrator, if you’re that unhappy and you just can’t live with it, perhaps you would be happier somewhere else. (Scattered idiotic applause.) (?)...hurting us, that’s all I can say. Somewhere between one and the other there...has to be a place for you to come together. And if students can help--if I can help--if any of the members of shared governance can help, please let us know. We need and want you both (and all?).


IV. Public comments (on non-agenda items)

At about 9:30, public comments commenced. The first speaker was an honor student named Julie Abel, who had recently received some sort of commendation that was signed by members of the board, including the four members of the board majority. I was unable to tape the first few seconds of her address:

JULIE ABEL:

...members of this board whose behavior has been an appalling embarrassment to the entire student body at both district campuses. One member, Mr. Steven Frogue, is a high school history teacher who tries to indoctrinate his students against ethnic and religious minorities and who tries to associate my college with the forces of bigotry. Three other members--Mr. Williams, Ms. Lorch, and Ms. Fortune--stand behind this lunatic. Together, they’re willing to swallow any nonsense, [commit] any (infamy?), necessary to preserve this precarious, peculiar, petulant majority--including ambushing a young woman in a restaurant.

Where are your values? Have you forgotten what an education is supposed to provide? An education is supposed to provide students with the knowledge and experience needed to think critically, to make intelligent decisions, and to make a positive contribution to the world. Instead,...you have shown us that every bad idea once proffered must be clutched...and defended at all costs. [...] students are expected meekly to go along with [this?].

So what do you expect me to do with this thing? Do you expect me to place it on my wall with these signatures (staring?) down at me shouting, “the Holocaust never happened!” and whispering “but we didn’t really say that”? To Williams, Lorch, and Fortune [I ask]: please send me a new certificate without your signatures....

To Mr. Frogue [...] of the conspiracies, denials and lies: to him, I have nothing to say.



ROY BAUER:

Hi. I’m Roy Bauer [wild applause--not really] and I just wanted to alert you to two handouts that I distributed tonight. One of them simply discusses the question of who Mr. Michael Collins Piper is--I understand that he is visiting with us tonight--and I’ve done some research and I’ve provided this handout. I hope that you’ll take some time to look at it and see what sort of character he is.

Um, I wanted to alert you to, in particular--what I did is I had about 4 or 5 random Spotlights--he [Piper] works for [the] Spotlight newspaper which is the newspaper for Liberty Lobby--and simply scanned some articles and advertisements, editorials. And as you can see, this is an embarrassment.

I hope you do look very carefully at it. You have ads here for [reads:] “the Caucasian race”; “collectors/historians: Ku Klux Klan memorabilia”; “The Truth about the bombs in Oklahoma.”

Also [we have] an article here by Mr. Michael Collins Piper which apparently suggests that the Oklahoma City bombing, too, can be attributed to the Israeli Mossad!

So this is the kind of man that Mr. Frogue has wanted to invite to this district. I’m ashamed that I’m a part of a district in which something like this can occur.

Also, I wanted to...point out that I have a letter that was sent to me by this so-called “scholar,” which I’d like to read:

“Dear Roy: I just happened to be going through my files and I found this seventeen year old letter to the editor of the George Washington University student newspaper...Note that I came to the defense of a ‘liberal’ professor who was under fire from ‘right wing’ students who wanted to censor her views.”

Mr. Piper goes on to say:

“Isn’t it ironic that fifteen years later a filthy, anti-free speech mother-fucker like you came on the scene and caused such a big commotion in an effort to silence my views?”

I know a lot of scholars, and they almost never say “motherfucker.” [Laughter.]

“Looks like I’m the good guy, Roy, and you’re the fucking piece of shit that you are. And by the way”—

This is my favorite part of the letter:

“Some of my Black Nationalist supporters in Southern California are watching your activities closely. They believe in Freedom of Speech, motherfucker, but you don’t.”

[Looking directly at Frogue:] This is the scholar that Mr. Frogue sought to invite to his idotic JFK Forum.

Thank you very much.

IRV RUBIN:

My name is Irv Rubin. I represent the Jewish Defense League [JDL], and I just wanted to take a moment of your time to shed the spotlight (on) another supporter of Mr. Frogue who recently left, about an hour ago, a fellow by the name of Joe Fields.

How many people in the room know who Joe Fields is? He’s a self-admitted Hitler-lover. He’s also a convicted sexual morals offender--tries to pick up young girls and put them in his dirty little movies.

And (yet) we have nothing but silence from Mr. Frogue.

Mr. Frogue, your silence speaks a great deal. Maybe you ought to look yourself in the mirror and wonder who you’ve asociated with.

PHIL TRYON:

My name is Phil Tryon. I’m a retired civil engineer and I want to thank the board again for allowing me to say a few words about free speech versus thought control, since there has been so much hatred spewed out against Mr. Frogue by the criminal ADL [...] for inviting Mr. Piper--the author of Final Judgment, a book on the Kennedy assassination--to take part in a seminar on this tragic event.

I suggest to the board that Mr. Piper...be given some extra time to present the facts as brought out in his book. Then I suggest that some extra time be given to a representative of the ADL to refute these facts. [...] This way it will be out in the open and the people can decide for themselves what is true and what is false.

This is the American way. It is the communist way for us to sit back in fear and wait for the thought police and the anti-American ADL to tell us what we can or cannot read or hear.

I say to you trustees tonight that you who oppose [Piper/Frogue]...are tantamount to being intellectual hypocrites.

Thank you.

BARRY KRUGEL (JDL):

...This is ridiculous--allowing 12 people in and having us wait hours on end to get to speak!

[Mr. Krugel’s address hit its apex with that remark; it soon deteriorated.]

After Mr. Krugel completed his remarks, Trustee Fortune questioned Mr. Rubin about his visit to a Saddleback class.

MICHAEL COLLINS PIPER:

I feel like I’m in a really bad John Waters movie here, uh...

KRUGEL: “Your makeup job is pretty bad.”

PIPER: You need some sun, my boy, and get some speech lessons. At any rate, I did write a nasty letter to a--what’s-his-name back here--Roy Bauer--because I was very frustrated. And I do use nasty language in private letters, but I wouldn’t have read that letter out loud to a group of people here like that, so I think that goes to show the kind of caliber this man is.

I’m not the one who started this controversy on this campus, and, in my opinion, neither is Steve Frogue. It was Roy Bauer--this gentleman sitting back there--in collaboration with the Anti-Defamation League. [Someone--Rubin?--laughs.]

When I was invited to speak out here, I just thought I was gonna come out here and I was gonna come before an audience and say a few words about my book along with other people who had other theories on the Kennedy assassination. And what was the result? A major brouhaha that was published in newspapers all over the country. I didn’t contact those newspapers. I didn’t generate that publicity. I didn’t even find out about the conference [being cancelled] until I got a call from the Los Angeles Times, which belies the myth, promulgated by Roy Bauer, that Steve Frogue and I were somehow in collusion.

[NOTE: in collusion to do what? Stevie invited Mikey. That’s all I’m sayin’. That’s all I ever said. How does “collusion” enter the picture?]

I noticed that Mrs. Milchiker isn’t here tonight. I don’t know why. Maybe there’s a personal reason. Maybe it’s because she didn’t wanna give me any credibility by appearing here--I don’t know.

But I listened to what she’s had to say about me in--in--in one of your meetings. I saw this on videotape. I heard her talking about a website in Germany that has something to do with the Holocaust, equating things with me that I know absolutely nothing about.

That’s why I came out here. I didn’t come out here to cause a problem. I came out here to show the members of this board and anyone who wanted to listen to me that I am a human being. I’m offended by some of the things that have been said about me. I feel like I’ve been made into a political football by, uh, by people, uh, Mrs. Milchiker for example--Roy Bauer.

--I understand that there’s a lot of conflict out here at this board that I know nothing about. (I have?) nothing to do with them and yet somehow, uh, it’s...my presence in this whole thing--[it] has been made into a major issue.

You know, I could go on, but let me just say this. I think, uh, this gentleman back here [Phil Tryon] expressed it very very well. If my book is so crazy, why doesn’t the Anti-Defamation League debate me in public about it? Why doesn’t Roy Bauer debate me in public about it?

RUBIN: “Who would give you any credibility? Who would give a nutcase like you any credibility?

PIPER: Ah, I’m gonna ask, could I ask for 10 more seconds--in light of the fact that I’ve been interrupted here several times since I began to speak--so I can conclude?

I’ve been hearing so much about anti-Semitism and the Holocaust and all this kinda stuff...

RUBIN: “You’re an expert on it.”

WILLIAMS: “Please, Mr. Rubin.”

[Piper is discomfited. He pauses.]

PIPER: I, I didn’t interrupt when this unpleasant creature was speaking--who is allied with Marcia Milchiker and Roy Bauer--and I would, I would ask that I be allowed to speak without interruption.

UNIDENTIFIED JDL WOMAN: “But you’re a nutcase. Nobody should ever...

PIPER: Uh, where’s the police? I’d like I--I--I would like the police brought in here, sir [speaking to policeman]. Sir, I’m being harrassed while I’m trying to speak. I didn’t shout out when I was listening to that...(mixed voices are heard)

HARRY PARMER [chief cop]: “Ladies and gentlemen, please!”

PIPER: I think, I think if this could be broadcast to the general public on cable, they would see the caliber of the people who are allied with Marcia Milchiker and the Anti-Defamation League...

(An indecipherable voice interrupts)...

WILLIAMS: “Please be quiet.”

RUBIN: “We’re not allied with the ADL.”

PIPER: You’re not allied with the ADL. Well, you’re allied--OK. You know, I’ll tell you something. I’m really glad I came out here. I’m glad because it makes me good, it makes me feel good to see--’cuz I know, I know that there’s a lot of people in this room, and I know there’s a lot of people in that room down the hall, who do value free speech, who don’t, who don’t, uh, who don’t make personal attacks on people, who don’t try to cause trouble, and, I know who does, and a few of those people are in this room tonight, and, uh--

RUBIN: “Not you, of course.”

[Again, Piper pauses, as though discombobulated.]

PIPER: I’ll tell you what. I’ll conclude by saying: if ever there was an argument in favor of anti-Semitism, it’s this spokesman--self-appointed spokesman--for the Jewish community right here. You’re a most unpleasant man.

RUBIN: “You’re a creep--and you’re a Hitler-lover...

PARMER: “Please, that’s enough.”

Next, an elementary school teacher speaks on the topic of free speech; then Mr. Jim Scott, who, during a meeting several months ago, shouted, “Keep up the good work, Dr. Frogue! There never was a Holocaust!”

JAMES SCOTT:

Good evening and thank you board members for allowing us to speak like this. This issue has always been free speech, period...

Unfortunately, this thing over here [motions to Rubin], and that thing [motions to Krugel, who says simply, “Screw you”], have tried to distort this whole meeting and turn it into a big long Holocaust shoot-out.

WILLIAMS: “Would the audience please be quiet?”

KRUGEL: “Well, I’m a person [unlike that?] fat pig over there.”

WILLIAMS to Krugel: “Would you please leave? You’re not welcome in here anymore. [To Parmer:] “Would you please remove him?”

SCOTT: Anyway, this whole matter, it’s very important that we get this issue of free speech out where it’s supposed to be in front of everybody....

ANTONIO AGUILAR (STUDENT):

Mr. Aguilar out-JDLed the JDL. After only a minute, he began to scream at Mr. Frogue with remarkable violence.



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