from the Department of It's About Time:
California’s massive UC and Cal State systems plan to require COVID-19 vaccinations this fall
The University of California and California State University announced Thursday that they will require COVID-19 vaccinations for all students, faculty and staff on campus properties this fall once the Food and Drug Administration gives formal approval to the vaccines and supplies are sufficiently available. The directive is the largest of its kind in U.S. higher education, affecting more than 1 million members of the two public university systems...The California Community Colleges, which serve 2.1 million students, said Thursday that they would leave vaccination policy decisions to the system’s 73 local districts.
Time to reach out to the board!
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About time? Definitely. We cannot put others at risk because we claim freedom. If others becomes ill because I did not take the shots, I've taken away their freedom.
I wish this was an item on Monday's board agenda - but it's not. I hope the district will follow the Uc and CSU lead and require vaccinations for those who wish to return to campus. It will better ensure that once we return, we can stay.
Not taking the shots does not mean that you will make others sick!
I am proud of the UCs and CSUs. Come on SOCCCD!
I guess admin already talked about it and does not want to require vaccines because it will keep some students from being able to come to school.
This was said by the VP Instruction at Saddleback in some meeting this week.
But NOT requiring the vaccine will keep more away and jeopardize the operation. Plus where will these unvaxxed students transfer to?
While the requirement might may some - a minority hesitate - it will reassure more that the campus is a safe place to be: "Some experts say that requiring vaccinations for students will make significant headway in containing the pandemic because their social gatherings have touched off COVID-19 surges around USC and UC Berkeley, among other campuses. California fared better than other states in the Midwest and Northeast last fall when comparing campus outbreaks to the case rate of surrounding communities. But the number of infections among younger residents who typically were asymptomatic was a major cause for concern."
And 9:05, asymptomatic, unvaxxed people (especially young people) CAN and DO pass the virus - so yes, you can make others sick, you can pass along a virus that will kill people.
“From a public health strategy, it’s also a good idea. It turns out that even though young people don’t get severely ill with COVID-19, they are really good at transmitting [the] coronavirus,” said Dr. Kirsten Bibbins-Domingo, chair of the epidemiology and biostatistics department at the UC San Francisco School of Medicine. “It’s important that we can get younger people vaccinated in order to slow down transmission.”
I am hoping that the board does the right thing and soon. Otherwise enrollments will continue to decline and students will continue to fail.
The SOCCCD stepping up would go a long way to addressing the stigma of OC being a county of anti-vaxxers, anti-science people.
Everyone--well expressed.
I encourage everyone to email the trustees and the chancellor about this issue.
The fear of the students we may "lose" because of a vaccine requirement (students who no doubt plan to transfer to institutions, private or public, that WILL require them to have vaccinations within 1-3 years) should not not outweigh the risk to of opening WITHOUT a vaccine requirement: transmission of the virus by asymptomatic unvaxxed people; closure/suspension of in-person classes if someone tests positive/is exposed; reluctance/hesitation of people to return and expose without such a mandate, etc. We need to be smart and courageous here. We need to live in the future we have created.
Email addresses of Chancellor Burke and the trustees:
chancellor@socccd.edu
mmilchiker@socccd.edu
tjemal@socccd.edu
bjay3@socccd.edu
tprendergast@socccd.edu
jwright@socccd.edu
Rydell and Inmon don’t have email addresses listed on the district website for some reason (?).
Don't forget President Stern in your emails.
estern@saddleback.edu
We are not returning to school crazy professors. You already took away our future, don't take away our constitutional rights ! ! You can have our vaccines and vaccinate your brains !! !
11:25 PM: Oh thank god you are not returning to school. We don't want you.
Signed,
Crazy Professors
A remedial class in logic may assist 11:25--it's the scientists and MDs we should all be listening to.
Crazy and foolish professors you’re jobless without us ! ! Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. You’re an embarrassment !!
yeah, don’t beg us to come back.we don’t want you either
My students, whether they are succeeding in online classes or struggling, are looking forward to a safe return to campus. I think we've all learned that we really do need to make education work during this time. No doubt some of what we have done online will continue to inform what we do in the traditional classroom, but I think we are all looking forward to the day when we can walk on to campus. Take care everyone! Get your shots.
What’s up with academic senate??? This equity thing is confusing ... Don Roulette for Senate President ??
God, “All” White-y senate presidents for years. Define equity for me …
What do you expect, IVC is run by the Humanities folks. Same group of people who will tell you how to be “anti-racists” .. Get used to it, it’s the same with faculty association—-white for years.. Common knowledge
I recommend reading the senate candidates' statements before selecting your candidate. The campus is so big now, it's hard to get to know people. A contested election is a good sign.
It's hard to see how IVC is run by "humanities" people....
8:22 — so IVC is "run by the Humanities folks"? How do you figure? The Senate Prez is not in that school; neither is the VP. Look at the Senate cabinet. Where's the domination of Humanities?
Get a frickin' clue.
I have the same observation. I believe 8:22 said IVC— not Academic Senate.
Okay - so HOW exactly is IVC run by "Humanities"? The new prez? The deans? the VPs? Where is the cabal of Hum folks? Do tell. I'll go join them.
I guess the issue here is not the Humanities but the perpetuation of “white supremacy” in leadership.
Chapman U has announced a vaccine mandate for the fall for students, faculty and staff (no options for virtual learning)- just FYI:
https://www.ocbj.com/news/2021/apr/30/covid-19-oc-business-updates/
“Our goal is to move toward a Chapman Experience that is closer to what we had before the pandemic, with only minimal social distancing, our facilities being open, the ability to move freely around campus, where guests are also welcome,” Chapman President Daniele Struppa said in a statement on Friday. “Models estimate that we need to have the vast majority of our community vaccinated for that to become a reality." Chapman, with 9,761 students, is planning a full return to in-person instruction in the fall with no options for 100% virtual learning.
(IVC is bigger than Chapman...)
“And 9:05, asymptomatic, unvaxxed people (especially young people) CAN and DO pass the virus - so yes, you can make others sick, you can pass along a virus that will kill people.”
Check with your doctor. Vaxxed people can also be transmitters of the virus and can still make others sick. How about students who never leave home and are healthy or students who have negative reaction to vaccines. If you mandate this and they get seriously or die as a result, who will be liable for this? You professors or the district?
Bad news from Oregon:
On Friday, Gov. Kate Brown placed 15 counties in an “extreme risk” category, banning indoor dining at restaurants and limiting the number of patrons at gyms. She said the return to restrictions could save hundreds of lives and prevent as many as 450 hospitalizations over the next three weeks.
“What I can’t do is bring back someone’s life lost to this virus,” Brown said at a news conference Friday. “That’s why, as hard as this is, we must act immediately. This is truly a race between the variants and the vaccines.”
She imposed the restrictions after cases rose by 51% in two weeks, the fastest increase in the nation, and hospitalizations jumped by more than a third. As cases declined in much of the rest of the country, Oregon lurched in the opposite direction.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-04-30/oregon-covid-surge-vaccine
2:56: get seriously “ill” and die …
The option for students who don't wish to be vaccinated or who cannot is to continue to take courses online until herd immunity has been reached - a few years from now.
Yes, I suspect there will be a return to face-to-face instruction which will require vaccination as well as continued online learning options to address the populations who will not or cannot received the vaccination until herd immunity is reached but even that remains uncertain and is certainly far in the future:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00728-2
9:10 pm, I just did.Two more days to vote. Robert Melendez for Academic Senate president. Great work ethic. Responsive. Less talk more action 👍👍. If you’ve worked with him, you know what I mean. He’ll serve all schools, including Humanities !!
Yeah, the richest instructor in the district. He knows how to cash in.
Please explain 6:31pm. Show the proof … without proof it’s fake news
How is this possible ?? Don’t we have an accounting department ??
https://transparentcalifornia.com/
I went to the site indicated above: $247,944.00
6:31/11:22pm Robert was an interim Dean at one point so don’t jump to conclusions. You’re embarrassing yourself, and people know who you are. He also has an IVC scholarship in honor of his father: https://study-education.com/sites/foundation.ivc.edu/
How about you? Do you ever do something positive for the humanity ?? Or just the “Humanities” ??
See SOCCCD's SOCCCD's "$200K Club" from 2015
The amount referenced above from transparentcalifornia.com includes BENEFITS! Do your own research folks.
He’s still making about 70k in “other” and “overtime” pay every single year (not just when he was Dean). Don’t know how. It’s like 200k without benefits. Still more than most faculty, right?
You should ask the District, not Robert. If it’s APPROVED, then it’s on the Board not him,
Dirty office politics. I’m sure he has changed the lives of many students than you have.
I’m sure it is approved by the board. But, making 70K over a base salary even if it is on the up and up means the number of stipend projects and/overload responsibilities certainly must be spreading a person thin. Can anyone really do their best work if they take on so many responsibilities?
We should think about what best serves students. And excessive stipends and overloading is questionable.
There is such a mean tone about the humanities here. It really suggests bitterness and anger and I’m not sure that’s deserved either.
Check the other counselors' compensation, not just Robert's. They're also making over 200k. Why don't you ask him and other counselors directly--perhaps during the Academic Senate meeting--about the overtime pay, instead of talking behind his back. Maybe they have to spend more time with students.
"Can anyone really do their best work if they take on so many responsibilities?" Totally agree, but doesn't this have to be approved by the dean? Why not ask your dean and your colleagues in Humanities. This was brought up in another blog. Some faculty hog leadership roles.
"There is such a mean tone about the humanities here. It really suggests bitterness and anger and I’m not sure that’s deserved either."
Your blog is all about meanness and sanctimony anyway--but where is the "bitterness and anger" about humanities here? From what I read above, that's not the case. Why not check and question Humanities folks' salaries including the faculty association president who has run for the nth time?
Most of us—here in Humanities—would welcome scrutiny of our salaries compared to those of other instructors on campus. Go right ahead. If you find anything interesting, let me know.
Here you go …
Faculty union: parity for part-timers!
District: give them half of your salary!
Claire Cesareo 244,613.00
Mitchell Haeri 226,420.00
Lewis Long 215,208.00
Margot Lovett 215,181.00
Parisa Soltani 209,972.00
Daniel Deroulet 206,271.00
Roy Bauer 197,407.00
Unbelievable sight, indescribable feeling .. a whole new world.
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