4/12/11
I’m not sure what to say, now that I’ve read comments left by OC Register readers to this afternoon’s story about the settlement of “Westphal v. Wagner,” the lawsuit challenging prayers at the South Orange County Community College District.
Read ‘em yourself. Be amazed.
BOBOOROZCO
We must worship Jesus continuously 24/7 lest HE, with HIS love for us, send us to hel. This includes worshiping HIM in all public tax-supported institutions also. Non-Christian members of the public need to shut up and love their freedom to worhsip Jesus also, even if they're not Christian, and continue to pay taxes to support the Christian-American government.
Amen
CASECLOSED
Let us all pray for everyone that was involved with this lawsuit settlement.
OCSLEEPERLIVES
And what exactly is wrong with having a moment of silence as compared to having a prayer said over the intercom? Why can't it be good enough for each individual to sit there in a moment of silence to reflect their thoughts or silently say a prayer to themselves? Why must you need to yell it out loud to say hey look i'm praying?
A good buddy of mine is a devout Christian. We fly on family vacation together. Each time before a flight, he sits there and silently say a prayer to himself. He doesn't need to Flight Attendant to go on intercomm to lead a prayer session so everyone can hear. Why can't most of you be like that when it comes to your religion?
REGENT
Dan Wagner [sic] is a HERO. That's why I voted for him in the primary and the general election.
The wimpering cowards who would use litigation to deny others the ability to honor the Creator of the universe, are indeed pitiable.
OCSURVIVOR
A slide show during a faculty training session for a public college:..images were superimposed with the message, "Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you. Jesus Christ and the American G.I. ... One died for your soul, the other died for your freedom."
----I think I would have had to walk out to go throw up.
REGENT
I will continue to pray and speak boldly about the GOOD NEWS of the Lord God, His Son and our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
Jesus offers the one path to salvation. Nothing on this Earth compares.
Pass your puny laws. You CANNOT stifle the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.
REGENT
Ignore Jesus Christ at your peril. You may meet Him someday.
45YROCNATIVE
Tim, that surprises me that you said that... It affects all of us. This is just the beginning, pretty soon we won't be able to pray in church!
LOUFCA
This is in reply to a blatant lie by OC4Ever. To quote, "According to FBI statistics, there was more violence in society and schools in the late 1800s and early 1900s when school prayer was in full force and religion was unabashedly all over society."
The FBI wasn't formed until 1908. Don't believe every thing that is posted.
LOUFCA
Ah, the tyranny of the few and politically correct continue to denude us of symbols that have always meant something to this country.
I wonder if those who brought the suit and the ACLU have ever looked at the doors to the Supreme Court, Senate and other areas. If they did, they would find things like the 10 commandments. Hmmmm, better burn down the doors to the Supreme Court before an ACLU member is turned into a rock by its look.
Typcial college professors. Nothing better to do than try and screw up 18 and 19 year olds. I hope they don't have tenure.
GREATG
Perhaps more discretion in who is hired as a "Professor"
What are they professor of?
TIMSCAVO
OK, so prayers are being discontinued at the local colleges.
So what?
Doesn't affect me, and it shouldn't affect anybody.
SILVERFOX54
If you want to have prayers from the Quran being invoked every day, I suggest that you find another country to live in. I am 57 years old, born and raised in the USA, as were my parents and there parents and ther parents. Bet you can't say that. While growing up in this country, not once was the question of one's religion brought up when prayers were said in school. We were proud to be AMERICANS and proud of what this country stands for and equally proud of any type of prayer that was read aloud during a graduation ceremony. We did not question it as to it's meaning towards people that might not have the same faith. The funny thing about the country you obviously came from, is that if someone from the USA was there and bitched about the reading of the Quran in schools, would anyone listen ? I think not !!!!! They would most likely be found dead. Come to America to be American. Don't come to America and expect America to change for you. No like AMERICA........go home and read Quran
ABBEYA
THis is America... Settled by Puritians...ie: Christians ...Founding Fathers Christians....% of Americans who ARE Christians 76% accordingly to Wikipedia. As for the Koran...IF Muslims had settled here ...NO one would tell them, sue them, call the ACLU on them. They would just Cut-off the discussion if you understand my meaning.
GREYLOX
**Would all of you people who are so determined to have Christian prayers said at all school events have the same opinion about prayer in schools if it was prayers from the Quran being invoked on a daily basis? Be honest.
ALANRRT
If there is no God to answer prayer, then prayer is just empty words. So the fact that atheists get so worked up just hearing someone pray tells me that even they can't buy thier own rhetoric.
NEWPORTBOB
The prayer, I pray that I pass this darn test, should never be omitted from college campuses.
BADMONKEY411
Religion Kills!
THOM234
GOUSCOC....I don't get what you said. I only see one Jewish sounding name in the plaintiff group.
XPATRIOT
And we just keep moving further away from any type of fundamentals in school. I find it humorous that folks keep nagging about the separation of church and state, but yet " in God we trust" can not only be found on our money, it is also above the speaker of the houses seat in the capitol in two foot letters. Sure keep thinking there is no correlation between the lack of fundamental teaching in our schools and the current state of our education in America, kids today are simply not learning any type of discipline. The lack of morals and respect continues to decline in our schools and America only produces more and more corrupt and selfish citizens. Do kids in school even recite the pledge of allegiance anymore? I am sure it violates someones right not to be Amrican in America.
OC4EVER
Gatordon: While I am a person of faith, your statement is historically inaccurate. According to FBI statistics, there was more violence in society and schools in the late 1800s and early 1900s when school prayer was in full force and religion was unabashedly all over society--not that it was caused by the prayer, but we were simply a more violent society back then--things were settled with guns, and the court system was not as fully developed. So it is not true that prayer in schools means no or less violence.
DOGSTAR
Maybe one of the draft dodgers that pose as editor for the OCR had a had in this. How about in Whiting?
BLACKJESUZ
wasnt God there when little children were being molested by men of the cloth?
or when the white man massacred millions in the name of christ?
what retarded nonsense to preach Gatordon.
kick out religion from all of our institutions so we can go back to a sane society.
GOUSCOC
The federal lawsuit, Westphal v. Wagner, was filed in November 2009 by Americans United for Separation of Church and State on behalf of Saddleback College professors Karla Westphal, Alannah Rosenberg, Margot Lovett and Claire Cesaero-Silva, Irvine Valley College professor Roy Bauer, Saddleback College graduate Ashley Mockett and two anonymous Saddleback College students.
Looks like Christians have more to worry about being attacked by jews then muslims.
GATORDON
And then when there are killings in our schools, Parents and people ask why wasn't God there to protect our children? Very simple... You kicked him out.
RIXTAR99
...and where in what constitution does it say "separation of church and state"? [The 1st Amendment prohibits laws respecting establishment of religion.]
ISTHATHER
Interesting...
NAPTOWN
...and the tail wags the dog