Wednesday, January 27, 2010

The ever-dynamic SOCCCD


Cleveland, city of light, city of magic
Cleveland, city of light, you're calling me
Cleveland, even now I can remember
'Cause the Cuyahoga River
Goes smokin' through my dreams

—From Randy Newman's "Burn On"

FIRST: Issued this morning, just after 8:00: “a statement to our campus communities from Board President Donald P. Wagner.”

“On behalf of the Board of Trustees, I would like to take this opportunity publicly to thank Chancellor Mathur for his years of service to the district and its students. He has been tireless in his efforts in the Chancellor's office and can take great pride in the many accomplishments listed in his email. We on the board are fortunate to have been able to work with him in pursuit of the district's goals. We wish Chancellor Mathur all the best in his future professional endeavors.”

MEANWHILE, back in the real world, a friend and former SC/IVC administrator (now in Colorado) sent us the following list:

[This] is a partial list of administrators who either were terminated, resigned, retired, or reassigned since the South Orange County Community College District Reorganization in 1997:

· Administrators:

1. Andrews,William -Vice President, SC
2. Audibert, Donna -Director, IVC
3. Bauer, Roy -Chair, IVC
4. Bergerud, Marly -Dean, SC & District
5. Bishopp, Greg -Dean, SC & IVC
6. Bullock, Dixie -President, SC
7. Burgess, Terry -Vice President, IVC
8  Busche, Donald -Vice President, SC
9. Carcamo, Tony -Vice Chancellor
10. Cayabyab, Nelson -Director, IVC
11. Christianson, Bill -Director, IVC
12. Corum, Susan -Dean, SC & IVC
13. Craig, Jess -Dean, IVC
14. Culton, Donald -Director, District
15. Dachschlager, Howard -Chair, IVC
16. Deegan, Bob -Vice President, IVC
17. Deegan, Pam -Dean, IVC
18. Doffoney, Ned -President, SC
19. Doty, Ann -Director, IVC
20. Evans, Lloyd -Dean, SC
21. Forouzesh, Jennifer -Dean, SC
22. Gabriella, Wendy -Chair, IVC
23. Gensler, Howard -Dean, IVC
24. Goodwin, Don -Vice Chancellor
25. Hasson, Kathy -Director, SC
26. Hill, David -Director, IVC
27. Hodge, Kathleen -Vice Chancellor
28. Hodge, Vern -Vice President
29. Jacobson, Ruth -Dean, SC & IVC
30. Jay, Bill -Vice Chancellor
31. Kirk, Joyce -PIO, IVC
+ Kopecky, Robert -Park Ranger (Provost), ATEP
32. Kremer, Nick -Director, IVC
33. Kuss, Hans -Vice President, SC
34. Larios, Daniel -President, IVC
35. Lemkin, Susan -PIO, SC
36. Loeffler, Bob -Vice President, IVC
37. Long, Sue -Chair, IVC
38. McCrory, George -PIO, IVC
39. McCullough, Rich -Dean, SC
40. Merry, Pauline -Vice President, IVC
41. Mora, Aracely -Athletic Director, IVC
42. Newell, Linda -Director, District
43. Ontiveros, Michael -Director, IVC
44. Parmer, Harry -Vice Chancellor
45. Pniewski, Stacey -PIO, IVC
46. Poindexter, Rodney -Dean, IVC
47. Prystowsky, Richard -Dean, IVC
48. Reynolds, Nancy -Dean, IVC
49. Rickner, Donald -Director, IVC
50. Rickner, Sandra -Director, IVC
51. Riopka, Diane -PIO, District
52. Rivas, Daniel -Dean, SC & IVC
53. Robinson, Terry -Dean, SC
54. Rochford, Steve -Chair, IVC
55. Romas, Ted -Director, IVC
56. Roquemore, Glenn -Chair, IVC
57. Ross, Priscilla -Chair, IVC
58. Ruiz, Armando -Vice President, IVC
59. Ruminer, Sabrina -Director, District
60. Runyon, Mike -Vice Chancellor
61. Sampson, Cedric -Chancellor
62. Spencer, Patricia -Vice President, IVC
63. Urell, Bob -Chair, IVC
+ White, Dennis -VPI, IVC
64. Woodward, Ken -Dean, SC
65. Zandvliet, Bevan -PIO, IVC
66. Zanelli, Pam -PIO, District

Comments

Anonymous said...
Let's invite Kathy Hodge to the party. And Pauline Merry too.
Anonymous said...
How about the people who simply silently put their heads down in disgust and dismay and tried to survive that way?
Let's NOT invite Howard Gensler to the party.
Anonymous said...
What about all the people who simply never applied for jobs because of him?
Anonymous said...
Couldn't Don muster a list of Raghu's accomplishments on his own?
That's not lukewarm, that's cold, brother. Glacial. Icebergy.
Anonymous said...
If Don doesn't do better than that, Raghu is going to sue him for breach of contract. Don's just damning by faint praise.
Anonymous said...
Remember when he came THIS close to getting Jeff Kaufmann fired?
Anonymous said...
It might be helpful to update the list. Certainly Dennis White, Bob Kopecky and a host of others deserve a mention.
Anonymous said...
Let's all do the clap.

Anonymous‬ said...
...so, let me get this straight. All these people left after Raghu took over, so, therefore, they left because Raghu took over. Right? Oh, wait a minute, isn't that like "post hoc ergo propter hoc", some kind of logical fallacy? Aren't the operators of this blog writing and philosophy teachers? Well I guess it's OK if they don't practice what they preach, so long as it's for the noble overriding cause of getting rid of Mathur. The end justifies the means, you know...

‪Anonymous‬ said...
12:42, Chill dude. There are three people who write for this blog, and only one (me) teaches philosophy. The other two teach English/Writing.
 The post did not say or suggest that Raghu Mathur is responsible for these people leaving. Indeed, some people on the list (Woodward, Runyan, possibly others) were made administrators by Mathur and his group, just as Mathur was made an administrator. This is well-known. If you were more informed, you would be aware that a consistent complaint about our district and colleges--going back at least 13 years--is that they have seen far too much administrative turnover. The Accreditors have pressed this point, and it is a good one. ("Administrative instability," is how they recently referred to it.) When Mathur's crew took power (starting in December of 1996), we fell into severe administrative instability. That's the point. So, dude, get a clue. --RB

Anonymous said...
I get the point you’re trying to make, that Mathur was the cause. As you know, attrition is a normal occurrence in every organization. Why you would then include “resigned” and “retired” while already knowing attrition is negligible at best. Are we just trying to make this list as long as possible to impress? Not so scientific, I must say. The correct study would be: “employed” or “not employed” because of Mathur. First, I would compare a period of pre Mathur attrition against Mathur era attrition. The probability is extremely high there will be no correlation; you will not be able to establish a causal relationship, so that cancels-out most of your list.
Then there’s the issue of “reassigned.” As you know, the employer has the right to reassign employees “at will” within the organization. How could you then include them in your list? They do still work here. That eliminates another big “Chunk” (get it Chunk?) of your list.
Now were [sic] only left with “termination.” As you know, employees get terminated for a wide variety of reasons. How many were actually terminated because Mathur himself terminated them? As I recall, he did spare Dr. Kauffman.
The “administrative instability” as I recall, was due to a combination normal attrition and some voluntary resignations. And from what I understand, those who voluntarily resigned generally found better, higher-paying positions elsewhere.
1:40 PM, January 29, 2010

B. von Traven said...
Raghu, you really don’t read well, do you?

First of all, Mr. Goo, the post is a list sent to me by a former Saddleback College and Irvine Valley College administrator. It is not “my” list. It is his. Read the post again.

Second, and for the second time: no, neither the list-maker nor I have ever suggested that “Mathur was the cause” of the administrative exodus and administrative instability suffered within the district in the last 13 years, though he certainly was the cause of some of it (e.g., Bob Loeffler left his VP post saying who couldn’t work with you). Mathur (i.e., YOU) were a key member of the corrupt group that controlled the faculty union in 1996 (and for a few years thereafter) and that managed to get its right-wingers (Frogue, Williams) elected in 1996 (also in 1998: Wagner, Padberg; and 2000: Fuentes). 

That group (the Old Guard/Board Majority Axis) pursued actions and policies that created administrative instability, among other problems, one of the key areas of concern in a series of accreditation findings.

How many times do I have to say it, Raghu?

And, Goo, you really need to get some new material. You state that “those who voluntarily resigned generally found better, higher-paying positions elsewhere.” Gosh, you said practically the same thing back in 1998!



“[Mathur] said it is a ‘feather in the cap of the district’ that people who have gained experience here have gone on to find excellent positions when they have chosen to go elsewhere.” (Irvine World News, 7/9/98)

4:27 PM, January 29, 2010

Anonymous said...
I don't think Mathur "spared" Kaufmann - I think Kaufmann and a lot of others made it impossiblr for Mathur to fire him.

Mathur wielded a shameful, dishonest campaign leading up to the fateful board meeting -where - I recall - it was standing room only. 

I believe Mathur's longtime uber-supporter (then still playing a union role) kept trying to talk Jeff into resigning (!).

Cads.
4:30 PM, January 29, 2010

B. von Traven said...
You are correct, 4:30. Mathur didn’t spare Kaufmann. Some of us worked very hard to get public support for Jeff and media coverage of Mathur’s attempt to scare faculty into obedience. In the end, the support for Jeff was so great—and in full view of the media—that the board decided not to take Mathur’s recommendation. For an account, see Mathur goes after Jeff
4:39 PM, January 29, 2010

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Let's invite Kathy Hodge to the party. And Pauline Merry too.

Anonymous said...

How about the people who simply silently put their heads down in disgust and dismay and tried to survive that way?

Let's NOT invite Howard Gensler to the party.

Anonymous said...

What about all the people who simply never applied for jobs because of him?

Anonymous said...

Couldn't Don muster a list of Raghu's accomplishments on his own?

That's not lukewarm, that's cold, brother. Glacial. Icebergy.

Anonymous said...

If Don doesn't do better than that, Raghu is going to sue him for breach of contract. Don's just damning by faint praise.

Anonymous said...

Remember when he came THIS close to getting Jeff Kaufmann fired?

Anonymous said...

It might be helpful to update the list. Certainly Dennis White, Bob Kopecky and a host of others deserve a mention.

Anonymous said...

Let's all do the clap.

Anonymous said...

...so, let me get this straight. All these people left after Raghu took over, so, therefore, they left because Raghu took over. Right? Oh, wait a minute, isn't that like "post hoc ergo propter hoc", some kind of logical fallacy? Aren't the operators of this blog writing and philosophy teachers? Well I guess it's OK if they don't practice what they preach, so long as it's for the noble overriding cause of getting rid of Mathur. The end justifies the means, you know...

Anonymous said...

12:42, Chill dude. There are three people who write for this blog, and only one (me) teaches philosophy. The other two teach English/Writing.
The post did not say or suggest that Raghu Mathur is responsible for these people leaving. Indeed, some people on the list (Woodward, Runyan, possibly others) were made administrators by Mathur and his group, just as Mathur was made an administrator. This is well-known. If you were more informed, you would be aware that a consistent complaint about our district and colleges--going back at least 13 years--is that they have seen far too much administrative turnover. The Accreditors have pressed this point, and it is a good one. ("Administrative instability," is how they recently referred to it.) When Mathur's crew took power (starting in December of 1996), we fell into severe administrative instability. That's the point. So, dude, get a clue. --RB

Anonymous said...

I get the point you’re trying to make, that Mathur was the cause. As you know, attrition is a normal occurrence in every organization. Why you would then include “resigned” and “retired” while already knowing attrition is negligible at best. Are we just trying to make this list as long as possible to impress? Not so scientific, I must say. The correct study would be: “employed” or “not employed” because of Mathur.

First, I would compare a period of pre Mathur attrition against Mathur era attrition. The probability is extremely high there will be no correlation; you will not be able to establish a causal relationship, so that cancels-out most of your list.

Then there’s the issue of “reassigned.” As you know, the employer has the right to reassign employees “at will” within the organization. How could you then include them in your list? They do still work here. That eliminates another big “Chunk” (get it Chunk?) of your list.

Now were only left with “termination.” As you know, employees get terminated for a wide variety of reasons. How many were actually terminated because Mathur himself terminated them? As I recall, he did spare Dr. Kauffman.

The “administrative instability” as I recall, was due to a combination normal attrition and some voluntary resignations. And from what I understand, those who voluntarily resigned generally found better, higher-paying positions elsewhere.

Roy Bauer said...

Raghu, you really don’t read well, do you?

First of all, Mr. Goo, the post is a list sent to me by a former Saddleback College and Irvine Valley College administrator. It is not “my” list. It is his. Read the post again.

Second, and for the second time: no, neither the list-maker nor I have ever suggested that “Mathur was the cause” of the administrative exodus and administrative instability suffered within the district in the last 13 years, though he certainly was the cause of some of it (e.g., Bob Loeffler left his VP post saying who couldn’t work with you). Mathur (i.e., YOU) were a key member of the corrupt group that controlled the faculty union in 1996 (and for a few years thereafter) and that managed to get its right-wingers (Frogue, Williams) elected in 1996 (also in 1998: Wagner, Padberg; and 2000: Fuentes).

That group (the Old Guard/Board Majority Axis) pursued actions and policies that created administrative instability, among other problems, one of the key areas of concern in a series of accreditation findings.

How many times do I have to say it, Raghu?

And, Goo, you really need to get some new material. You state that “those who voluntarily resigned generally found better, higher-paying positions elsewhere.” Gosh, you said practically the same thing back in 1998!

“[Mathur] said it is a ‘feather in the cap of the district’ that people who have gained experience here have gone on to find excellent positions when they have chosen to go elsewhere.” (Irvine World News, 7/9/98)

Anonymous said...

I don't think Mathur "spared" Kaufmann - I think Kaufmann and a lot of others made it impossiblr for Mathur to fire him.

Mathur wielded a shameful, dishonest campaign leading up to the fateful board meeting -where - I recall - it was standing room only.

I believe Mathur's longtime uber-supporter (then still playing a union role) kept trying to talk Jeff into resigning (!).

Cads.

Roy Bauer said...

You are correct. Mathur didn’t spare Kaufmann. Some of us worked very hard to get public support for Jeff and media coverage of Mathur’s attempt to scare faculty into obedience. In the end, the support for Jeff was so great—and in full view of the media—that the board decided not to take Mathur’s recommendation. For an account, see Mathur goes after Jeff

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