Wednesday, November 3, 2021

Gettin' real in the classroom (the real patriots)


     In my "Philosophy 1" courses this semester, as usual, I have a unit on "collective action problems," which segues into a discussion of Thomas Hobbes' Leviathan and his notorious argument that, in the "state of nature" (a hypothetical condition prior to the institution of government), people, pursuing security, would inevitably find themselves in a war of "all against all" in which an individual's life is "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."

     It's hard to discuss these things and not see the obvious connection to our current circumstances. So I wrote to my students, saying the following:

Something I want you to consider: is the Covid-19 crisis (i.e., the current pandemic) a “collective action problem”? 

collective action problem … is a situation in which all individuals would be better off cooperating but fail to do so because of conflicting interests between individuals that discourage joint action (Wikipedia)

Free rider: a benefit obtained at another's expense or without the usual cost or effort (Merriam-Webster)

Some history

     On Dec 7, 1941, Japan declared war on the US and attacked our naval base at Pearl Harbor. The next day, the US Congress declared war on Japan. Soon thereafter, in response, Italy and Germany declared war on the U.S. At that point, the US was at war with the formidable Axis powers. 

     Cue America's “greatest generation”: people from all walks of life were immediately inspired to do their part in the defense of their country. Men joined the military; children organized to collect construction materials for the war effort; women replaced men in factories; etc. Sacrifices were made by virtually everyone. 

     We wonder: faced with a similar threat, would we witness that kind of patriotic or civic-minded response today? 

The Covid-19 pandemic

     Well, some say we have an answer. In the face of the national crisis—a public health crisis—represented by the Covid-19 pandemic, many Americans voluntarily and happily joined in the effort to combat COVID: they socially distanced, wore masks, and got vaccines. —Not much of a sacrifice, but that's what was called for and many happily came through.

     But many Americans have refused to do so, greatly hampering the pandemic response, helping cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans and endangering the lives of hundreds of thousands more. 292,000 American lives were lost during WWII; so far, 750,000 Americans have died from Covid-19, in great part owing to the government’s failure maximally to control the spread—a failure largely caused by citizen resistance to the suggestion that they should do their part in the pandemic effort. 

     One might suggest that the latter phenomenon represents classic “free riding” of the kind discussed under the heading “collective action problems.” Some people selfishly refuse to limit their freedoms (by social distancing, etc.) for the sake of the public good. A willingness to make sacrifices for the public good seemed very common in 1941, but it seems less so today. 

     Is that a fair picture? Many think so. It’s complicated by special motivations among these  free riders: beliefs that the pandemic is a fraud, that measures (such as mask-wearing) are inefficacious, and that the government is engaged in nefarious efforts to control citizens via mask-wearing and the like. 

     Once one states these beliefs out loud, it is hard not to recognize their absurdity. I suppose I can tolerate some quibbling about whether masks are as effective as they are supposed to be and how safe vaccines are, but given the level of risk or sacrifice involved (apparently little), it seems that, for most of us, we ought to just shut up and wear the damned mask already. No?


SOCCCD Board of Trustees meeting, September, 2021: Discussion of the proposal to 
mandate vaccines among students (which passed).
Public remarks start at about 1:54 (i.e., 1 hour and 54 minutes into the meeting).

SOCCCD Board of Trustees meeting, October 25, 2021: HERE
Public comments start at 6:35 or so.
Perhaps owing to the rain, there weren't the same number of crazy remarks that we encountered at the September meeting. No real fireworks.
At 2:24:30, Milchiker indicates that Chancellor Burke is "leaving" that post. Burke "agreed to work with us until the end of August."
"We'll soon begin the search for a new Chancellor," says Marcia.

25 comments:

Bob said...

Well expressed Roy. Your students are fortunate to have you as an instructor, especially during these trying times.

Bear up.

Bob

Anonymous said...

I can't imagine what the country would be like if the attitudes so prevalent today were popular in the past. While I am not surprised that some of our students struggle with these concepts, the attitudes of some of our educator peers are discouraging.

Bob said...

Some, yes, but that's been true of any profession I suspect, but at least in the education system we have access to many teachers, many books, many on-line materials, some of which will allow us to see different perspectives. That's promising.

Anonymous said...

11:41, you have to let go of your control issue. Only then you’ll be at peace with yourself, with others, and the whole world! Life is too short to be obsessed with the vaccine mandate instead of focusing on being the best in your respective disciplines.

During the Trump administration, you were blaming him for the pandemic and the high death rates. Now, I don’t hear anything except that the Delta variants are causing it. Trump pushed for the early release of the vaccines, but your God Biden took credit for it. Your Goddess Kamala said she would refuse the vaccine if Trump had something to do with it. I must give all of you credit though because you were the first in line when Trump’s effort (early vaccine release) came to fruition. Your social media posts show this.

PEACE!

Anonymous said...

WWII is an interesting analogy. My uncles fought in it and the folks left at home did what they could. The stories they tell! My grandparents immigrated to this country during WWI and the Spanish flu epidemic - and told their kids what that was like. It seesm like back when we had less, people were willing to do more, for themselves and each other. Now that we have "more" and know more, it's sadly swinging the other way.

Looking forward to the Spring semester. Vaccine clinic next week at the college!

Anonymous said...

8:30pm. Simple logic. If you, school districts, had not taken over the role of the health practitioners and had not imposed this vaccine on others, things might have been different! Why are you calling it SPANISH flu??? You must be racist like Trump… yes, China flu is racist and politically incorrect! LMAO

Anonymous said...

8:30, my family came over the same time as your grandparents and my parents and their siblings also served in WWII. Those were indeed different times. Did you ever watch the Ken Burns documentary series about WWII? It's not perfect but it does get at some of the issues that Roy raised here about sacrifice. Your point is a good one about people doing more when they have less...

Anonymous said...

Yes, sacrifice… yet you can’t even tolerate unvaccinated people because of FEAR of catching their virus. Someone stated here that there’s a difference between those who refuse to get vaccinated and those who cannot get vaccinated because of medical conditions. Are you saying that those with exemptions won’t spread the virus and those who simply reject vaccinations will? That’s science and logic, huh! I’m afraid you’d turn off many prospective students and drive away current students if they see your inane comments here.

Roy, please deactivate your comments section—you are embarrassing yourselves with your hypocrisy and lies.

Anonymous said...

I guess lots of children of vets became teachers. My dad and his brother were in the Korean war. I was impressed with IVC's student body president who spoke in favor of the mandate at the last few meetings who is also a vet (Marine?). The U.S. aAmed Forces, of course, have a history of vaccinations going back to the Revolutionary War and now including the new COVID vaccinations. A number are required and some depend on deployment.

I think I heard about draftees during the Vietnam War considering vaccine refusal as a way of getting out of the war if their CO status was not approved...

Anyway, this is not about fear or intolerance as some might frame it.



https://washingtonnewsday.com/us-politics/the-full-list-of-vaccines-required-by-the-us-military-is-available-here/

Anonymous said...

Washington News… no wonder… your head is full of fake news!

There you go again… “I think I heard…” Give it up!

Veterans are not medical professionals, and those you are referring to do not represent the entire US veterans. Anyone who serves on any leadership position at the district is expected to be pro vaccine mandate (or else they’re out). What do you expect this student leader to stand for? Don’t be so naive!

You’re talking about vaccinations during the WW… you’re comparing apples and oranges.

Anonymous said...

Good connection to service, duty and responsibility, as well as helpful historical perspective. Veterans Day is this week and the birthday of the Marine Corps is the day before. Recent stats out of Marines reveal that 93%+ are vaccinated. Booyah. One suspects your exclamation point prone complainer has not studied history, epidemology or made any kind of commitment to community service or sacrifice, living instead via keyboard and screen memes. Sad and lonely, voice screaming in the interent's void, mistaking it for real life, real work. Perhaps a tour with the Marines or a stint in a COVID ward might give them some perspective.

Anonymous said...

OMG, you are all so desperate you are now involving the Marines to push the vaccine mandate. If you want to name drop and involve your relatives, I would like to let you know that my uncle was an Iwo Jima hero. But let’s leave them in peace and focus on the real issue. You are talking about false statistics, just like the statistics that your faculty leaders presented at the board meeting, which is a violation of employees’ privacy rights. Just wait until the lawsuits start pouring in!

P.S. Your use of highfalutin words won’t help justify what you are advocating for.

Anonymous said...

Is that you, D.E.?

Anonymous said...

8:24 AM. The pot calling the kettle black... "Sad and lonely, voice screaming in the interent's void, mistaking it for real life, real work." So why are you here 8:24 AM... and "living instead via keyboard and screen memes"?

5:17 PM, those are not highfalutin words... those are misspelled words - lol lol lol

8:24 AM, Now you are bragging about knowing "epidemology" - I wonder what you learned from "epidemology"- how to be a part of the corrupt union? I sure learned a lot from my Dad who specializes in e.p.i.d.e.m.i.o.l.o.g.y. (I don't mean to name drop). lol lol lol

Bob said...

For those of you so critical of Roy's site, why don't you just not visit it. You'd probably be better for it while those of us who wish to read the blog would appreciate your consideration.

Anonymous said...

@Bob. If you think that giving valid responses to posts here equates criticism on Roy’s blog, then I question your logic. Are you one of those “politically-obsessed” professors who can no longer distinguish right from wrong because of your blind loyalty to your political party? If not, please respect freedom of speech and tell those who post here to make sure that they post ACCURATE facts. Without your so-called trolls, you’ll be alone here. Wouldn’t it be lonely?

Rebel Girl said...

Bob,

This person (seems to be one person and male) has few, if any, options. He should perhaps start his own site to disseminate his views, right? And perhaps attend various meetings - senate, union, board, etc. and speak up. But that requires public courage and integrity.

Anonymous said...

Folks, here’s another “esteemed”professor—Rebel Girl, the English professor!

@Rebel Girl, how do you define “dissent” -- as in dissent the blog (the name of this blog)? Google says, “The definition of DISSENT is to differ in opinion. An example of dissent is for two children to disagree over who get us to…”. Perhaps, Roy should change his blog name to IVCFacultySuck.

Who would want to speak at your senate, union, and board meetings? They are a farce, and let me give you a few FACTS:

1. Any faculty with an average IQ would know that the vaccine mandate survey was a joke. T.J. Predergast asked about the percentage of the ft/pt faculty who took the survey, which was good. The board should have checked how this survey was crafted.

2. Your faculty leaders presented statistics on vaccinated employees based on the incentives provided. Not only this is a violation of privacy rights, but this is unethical!

3. Milchiker and Burke emphasized the strict compliance with the 2-minute speech. Denae, a student, who had a valid reason to oppose the mandate, was rudely told that her time was up; however, they let the two academic senate presidents and the union president to go on and on with their hypocrisy and lies.

4. Milchiker’s mask had a slit that exposed her mouth. Seriously? I mean, SERIOUSLY??? Are you going to provide your faculty with this type of mask? Roy never pointed this out… why? It requires public courage and integrity!

We don’t need public courage to demonstrate integrity, but it requires integrity to be credible. I will reserve the union corruption and the Title IX violations for later discussions (when pushed to the limit).

Milchiker: That’s why you’re professor of English. You say things beautifully.
Union President: (Behind her back) You should attend my class!
Silent Crowd: Beautifully said lies

Anonymous said...

Just chiming in here to point out that Milchiker wore the kind of mask many of us who teach languages and ESL and who have students who are deaf and with special needs use - one with a transparent window, not a "slit." These types of masks are still uncommon but in use in a variety of settings and are considered just as safe as other masks.

Anonymous said...

Why not make the whole thing transparent if that’s how it works? “Scientists” said only N95 masks are effective. Mask factory owners are feasting… and who are these factory owners?

Anonymous said...

I can assure you that dissenters of dtb are not only one or the same person.

More COVID deaths under Biden than under Trump. Where's the daily outrage, blogaderos? COVID was hermit Biden's running mate. His campaign was basically how Trump failed on COVID, but if you vote for Biden he and Kamala will fix it.

What's truly fascinating is how academia was and still is in the tank for a proven serial plagairist and liar.

Speaking of WWII, how about them pesky little Neuremburg Codes re. human experimentation? Hey, it's an international thing, ya know.

Anonymous said...

5:38, are you kidding? Deaf students can hear if teachers wear a mask with a transparent window, and students with special needs would understand what you teachers are saying through this transparent window? Oh, Lord, bless these insane professors!

Roy Bauer said...

That (9:53), I think, is supposed to be the voice of "common sense."
Deaf students read lips. That's the point of the transparency, I believe.

Anonymous said...

I knew someone would insist that… If you were deaf, and you grew up reading lips, would you be able to read Milchiker’s lips while she’s wearing that kind of “transparent-covered-slitted” mask? Yeah, common sense… hope your “scientists” would buy that.

Anonymous said...

@5:16, I know exactly what you mean. That board meeting is a FARCE! I witnessed that during the last board meeting. The board president was talking about the “IVC” Gala in reference to the “Saddleback” gala. Then she mentioned an event that would take place on December 35th! December 35th? Wright could not say “have a nice or beautiful holiday” or whatever beautiful he is trying to say. Whitt got COVID after vaccination, and she wants to mandate vaccination? Wow, this vaccine mandate obsession…

Milchiker started without a mask, then with a fashionable mask, like Nancy Pelosi’s. Imagine being in her classroom with confusing and unintelligible information! Hunter, the leftist student leader, obviously got so “hyped up” when Milchiker mentioned him after Seth’s wife requested that her questions be answered. Vaccination side effect? Another student puppet…

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