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Nov. 11: Owing to the wind, the ceremony was held inside the Student Services Center, but the change in venue didn't seem to be a problem. It started at 12:30, but I teach then, so I took a few quick pics and then high-tailed it to my classroom.
The event seemed to be well-attended. I'm told that it went quite well. If you attended, let us know.
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Nice photos. I am so glad that, I attended this event and say thank you to our Militray stuents and faculty.
The event was great. I did not know this but IVC hosts approximately 300 students who are veterans. I am proud to be an American and more proud that we have patriots who keep the red white and blue safe and sound.
Nice pics, as always. You make the college look so good.
A nice sentiment, 1:10, but since WWII haven't our conflicts really been about other things than keeping us safe? The pretext behind Vietnam was to stop all of SE Asia from becoming communist, and that was obviously wrong. Not all military personnel are so saintly, either, as many enter the forces for reasons other than patriotism, whatever that is.
To 10:56 Anon...those that drink the water must recognize those that dug the well. Our way of life can only come if we have the muscle to fend off those that do not agree with it.
Could you clarify what that means, 11:51? Did Vietnam vets dig wells? Did they die for absolutely nothing while digging? Please clarify.
The Vets in that era were drafted. Don't revise their stories. They did not choose the war. Those men did their duty as asked, many just tried to save their borthers in arms. Regardless of a time of peace, policing or war, without brave men and women in a strong military, we would not have the lifestyle we do in our country.
Get grip boys & girls..No vet should be treated like those who returned from Vietnam..It's hard to be a saint when you're trained to be a killer...Patriotism starts by pulling ones head out of ones ass and not allow those in DC to squander the national treasure needlessly on bullshit like vietnam..or Iraq..or Afgan..or Korea..or where ever we are headed next..Let"s see Syria? Yemmon? pick one or three..
7:05, I don't disagree, but surely we cannot be proud that we, as a society, have signed off on wars that are wrong, by any measure. (I'll grant that extricating ourselves from regrettable military actions often raises special problems.) The trouble I often have with my flag-waving brethren is the implicit suggestion that the best among us are those who do not ask whether our violence is just, but who instead insist that it is without reflection. I've always supported the troops and veterans but cannot help but insist that a better people would have the courage to question authority when it has repeatedly and manifestly earned our distrust.
Many were drafted, and many volunteered, 7:05. That does not change the fact that much of that war had to do with protection of corporate interests in the resources and trade in the region. Would you agree that many wars are started with litle or nothing to do with patriotism? Name an action since 1945 in which our national security was threatened.
Some 18- and 19-year-old men and women VOLUNTEER for military service. Others move on to 13th grade, secure in the knowledge that the former will labor in the worst crapholes in the world, allowing the latter the freedom and safety to "find themselves", or at least their classrooms.
Geez, 1:19--bitter enough? Many do not volunteer for military service, but go to college to earn degrees in social work, international relations, psychology, government, and other fields, to prepare themselves for a lifetime of serving others in non-military ways.
MAH
As a veteran myself I think it is important to remember that the vast majority of those who have served in the armed forces are little more than cogs in a very big machine.
Presidents Bush and Obama (and to a lesser extent congress) are responsible for continuing two unjust wars, which have no bearing what so ever on American security. Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations continue to operate unhindered in Pakistan and other parts of the world. The Taliban, who were never a direct threat to the US, still survive in Afghanistan. Iraq was never a threat to the US.
All of the above is politics though. It is unrelated to the vast majority of men and women who serve. Whether or not you support the individual veterans you meet in your daily lives should have nothing to do with US foreign policy. We don't have any more control over where we fight than you do.
For what it's worth, I am aware of no group at the college that fails to offer warmth and support for vets and soldiers. Certainly, the anti-war crowd (Dissenters, et al.) have been vocally and consistently supportive of the troops and vets. For instance, we strongly supported the "new GI Bill of Rights," which eventually passed, despite GOP opposition.
I agree that we have moved beyond the dark days of Vietnam. My response was directed to comments like "That does not change the fact that much of that war had to do with protection of corporate interests in the resources and trade in the region." from 11:01. The quoted text has nothing to do with veterans. In that context soldiers are just working a day job.
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