tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post8230930774992469334..comments2024-03-05T09:00:51.695-08:00Comments on DISSENT the BLOG: The YAF brouhaha: righties flip out, leaving slime and worseRebel Girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00695051285325585662noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-25753082666493426422016-09-17T15:07:46.008-07:002016-09-17T15:07:46.008-07:00You mean like turn your head and cough?You mean like turn your head and cough?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-85995715902430823262016-09-17T13:49:46.994-07:002016-09-17T13:49:46.994-07:00Bowie's Young Americans were a different kettl...Bowie's Young Americans were a different kettle of fish. "He coughs as he passes her Ford Mustang"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-81681246879664504872016-09-17T13:06:36.402-07:002016-09-17T13:06:36.402-07:00Didn't David Bowie sing about those Young Amer...Didn't David Bowie sing about those Young Americans?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-86943928151067359862016-09-13T08:51:36.751-07:002016-09-13T08:51:36.751-07:00Can't have a club without an advisor.Can't have a club without an advisor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-49768481100355758412016-09-12T17:32:18.124-07:002016-09-12T17:32:18.124-07:00Go LovettGo LovettAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-26770543550056574172016-09-12T06:20:35.343-07:002016-09-12T06:20:35.343-07:00I think Roy mentioned the board because of the pol...I think Roy mentioned the board because of the policy regarding posters, etc. which is a BOARD policy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-42337636006145113182016-09-11T22:58:42.482-07:002016-09-11T22:58:42.482-07:0011:55 did not say anything about the board, Roy.11:55 did not say anything about the board, Roy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-38487504703190616852016-09-11T17:12:45.782-07:002016-09-11T17:12:45.782-07:00really sad. Memorial posters were not in the free ...really sad. Memorial posters were not in the free speech designated areas?! What a mess our "higher" educational system is in. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16157360363069158360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-60619984382796938112016-09-11T14:17:19.662-07:002016-09-11T14:17:19.662-07:00Right, 'cause everyone knows that the board an...Right, 'cause everyone knows that the board and Saddleback administration are Lefties. <br />Far from it, my friend. <br />The policy being wielded here (AR8000) was created by our old right-wing board as part of a settlement when the district was sued by some students with the help of the ACLU. Administrators kept shutting down student protests, free speech. And so AR8000 was created in the settlement, a concession by the right-wingers. I am confident that, if Professor Lovett had had a say in the settlement, she would have argued for fewer restrictions, not more restrictions. But the restrictions are what they are, and the YAF posters were taken down accordingly.Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-89886736006624828052016-09-11T11:55:24.348-07:002016-09-11T11:55:24.348-07:00Seems to me that the ASG and administration have b...Seems to me that the ASG and administration have been stonewalling YAF's application and approval...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-64788008491637832742016-09-10T19:25:04.840-07:002016-09-10T19:25:04.840-07:00Who is the faculty advisor for the club? Who is the faculty advisor for the club? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-17960700157562802292016-09-10T19:19:36.102-07:002016-09-10T19:19:36.102-07:00-Evidently, they never turned in the paperwork to ...-Evidently, they never turned in the paperwork to become a club, and thus their event was cancelled. <br /><br /><b>Umm, wrong.</b><br /><br />They were far into the process of obtaining approval as a club. <br /><br />Which is why the Saddlebrook College website, under Active Clubs, has listed the following for some time:<br />"Young Americans for Freedom<br />Club Status: In Process<br />Contact: Audra Leslie, President: audraleslie@hotmail.com"<br />http://saddlebackstudentlife-edu.org/activeclubs/<br /><br />Furthermore, let's have a look at the Meeting Minutes of the Inter Club Council, Associated Student Government, Saddleback College <i>from April 21st, 2016</i>(emphasis mine).<br /><br />"Young Americans for Freedom: We are Young Americans for Freedom club,<br />and we just completed our level 2 training. We are a conservative action group<br />with the purpose of providing an alternative point of view on various issues. We<br />meet Thursdays at 12:30pm in SSC 211c."<br />http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5511a3cbe4b0748e8e710ce3/t/57242217e707eb7c1fce41f4/1461985815722/042116_ICC_Minutes.pdf<br /><br />That's all fine and good, the Administration counters, but YAF didn't finish the club approval process:<br />"The director made clear that the students would have to complete the club activation process before the event could be approved. As of today the students have not completed the requirements to form a club."<br />https://www.saddleback.edu/news/in-the-news/saddleback-college-statement-young-americans-freedom<br /><br />Ah, but there's a rub - according to YAF, the Administration wanted to tinker with the YAF's bylaws before granting it full recognition as a club. <br /><br />“The constitution and bylaws have not changed since last year, and last year they didn’t have a problem with us,” said Saddleback YAF chapter chair Audra Leslie. “They only have a problem now that we are trying to hold an event, which shows how colleges seek to stop conservative organizations from holding events on campus.”<br />https://refinedright.com/2016/09/08/saddleback-yaf-holds-911-memorial-event-despite-administration-refusal/<br /><br />You can decide yourself whether the YAF's or the Administration's account seems more plausible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-56036761303853795542016-09-10T17:48:22.025-07:002016-09-10T17:48:22.025-07:00Yearly we must remind the newbies of every rule. S...Yearly we must remind the newbies of every rule. SMHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-85787640768295500112016-09-10T14:26:58.296-07:002016-09-10T14:26:58.296-07:00Saddleback has signs on most buildings that clearl...Saddleback has signs on most buildings that clearly state that other than official statements (example--the recent findings of Zika mosquito sightings and the importance of avoiding dusk and sunrise as times to be about the campus). We have a policy about where free speech areas are.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com