tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post7068786391873172240..comments2024-03-05T09:00:51.695-08:00Comments on DISSENT the BLOG: Summer sessions to be "limited"Rebel Girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00695051285325585662noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-37671654087471944432011-10-12T07:48:16.812-07:002011-10-12T07:48:16.812-07:00Anon 9:32:
I dunno what OSH is, but districts can...Anon 9:32:<br /><br />I dunno what OSH is, but districts can fool with summer school calendars to get FTES to count for one fiscal year or another. Delay summer classes, and they'll count for next year. Start sooner, and they'll count for this year.<br /><br />That's what we do 100 miles down the road from you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-16160975170499845492011-10-11T21:32:05.537-07:002011-10-11T21:32:05.537-07:00From what I have been told, all summer classes are...From what I have been told, all summer classes are paid as OSH. The FTES can be credited to the previous academic year or the upcoming year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-41432830726859911162011-10-11T11:55:39.769-07:002011-10-11T11:55:39.769-07:00Could be, dude.Could be, dude.Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-41515314452563719722011-10-11T11:33:48.854-07:002011-10-11T11:33:48.854-07:00I didn't want to sound churlish or envious (th...I didn't want to sound churlish or envious (the latter is probably accurate), but because SOCCCD is a Basic Aid district, there's tons of money (I heard $180 million) in the bank.<br /><br />If that's the case, then your district SHOULD provide some unfunded classes to students. All that extra taxpayer money just sitting in the bank is plenty to make up for leaner times when there's less community college money coming from the same taxpayers.<br /><br />Non-Basic Aid districts like mine simply can't afford to offer classes without funding for the same classes. I think your district can.<br /><br />--LopezAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-33534276059784999352011-10-11T10:01:48.043-07:002011-10-11T10:01:48.043-07:00Phil, I've never been any good with FTES and t...Phil, I've never been any good with FTES and targets and such. I do know that our "basic aid" funding makes a difference to these calculations and I'm told that, in some sense, we scheduled too much (presumably this fall and last spring) and must now diminish summer to nearly nothing. Insofar as we want to offer summer classes, that's a problem.Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-38301274502453945302011-10-11T08:30:39.807-07:002011-10-11T08:30:39.807-07:00A little devil's advocacy:
Most of us enforce...A little devil's advocacy:<br /><br />Most of us enforce class maximums because of workload issues. If my class max is 30 students, then accepting three extra students increases my work by ten percent, but my salary stays the same.<br /><br />When districts cut summer school, they're doing the same thing: We are funded on the basis of FTES, so offering class sections over and above our funding level is, in effect, working for free. It's unsustainable over the long run.<br /><br />100 miles down the road from you all, we're trying to grab all the FTES we can during the Fall and Spring semesters. If we make it, we'll cut back summer offerings to nearly nothing. If we don't we'll offer more summer classes so we don't lose funding from the State.<br /><br />This seems sensible to me: Becaue funding is finite, we can't offer unlimited class sections, unless, of course, teachers are willing to work for free.<br /><br />So what's wrong with cutting back on summer school?<br /><br />--LopezAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-8386122932227796082011-10-10T16:59:46.950-07:002011-10-10T16:59:46.950-07:00How much longer do we have to put up with this adm...How much longer do we have to put up with this administrative team? Anyone up for meeting with the accreditation team on the day they visit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com