tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post2204348618726977917..comments2024-03-05T09:00:51.695-08:00Comments on DISSENT the BLOG: The IVC civility initiative: "Roy Bauer will present his concerns" (What? They're not faculty concerns!?)Rebel Girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00695051285325585662noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-81430730611707765532012-02-16T17:12:03.864-08:002012-02-16T17:12:03.864-08:00I agree. People often confuse the two.I agree. People often confuse the two.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-87026784578349323042012-02-16T16:58:06.016-08:002012-02-16T16:58:06.016-08:00The Senate Meeting went well. I'll have a repo...The Senate Meeting went well. I'll have a report late tonight (or tomorrow).Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-13846156107876779262012-02-16T16:56:40.692-08:002012-02-16T16:56:40.692-08:004:41, nice of you not to place my remark in contex...4:41, nice of you not to place my remark in context! I believe that I made that remark in connection with a student's <i>physically threatening behavior</i> toward a faculty member. The discussion was not about incivility, but about <i>physical endangerment.</i>Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-27184819285940038712012-02-16T16:51:57.779-08:002012-02-16T16:51:57.779-08:00we are beginning to confuse incivility with outrig...we are beginning to confuse incivility with outright hostility in the working environment and the two should never be confused. An institution moves forward at times when there is an irritating squeak or mashing in the gears. when we hear nothing we walk away. i am thankful for the squeaks. <br /><br />in matters of hostility and abusive behavior something must "kick in" fast to stop the worsening of the situation.<br /><br />lets not be silly enough to confuse the two.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-18394986185727615452012-02-16T16:41:02.868-08:002012-02-16T16:41:02.868-08:00Roy Bauer on uncivil behavior Jan. 11, 2011. "...Roy Bauer on uncivil behavior Jan. 11, 2011. "Administration should have some sort of policy or procedure to relieve faculty of this kind of burden, to give them a sense that somebody is covering the waterfront. Surely, there ought to be something, a protocol, that kicks in fast and can be depended on!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-69638712365216504832012-02-16T12:22:23.502-08:002012-02-16T12:22:23.502-08:00I hope we get a detailed account of the Senate mee...I hope we get a detailed account of the Senate meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-82439219269289931072012-02-16T12:19:11.280-08:002012-02-16T12:19:11.280-08:00I can't attend the meeting, but I did send an ...I can't attend the meeting, but I did send an email expressing my opinion to my senate reps. There is still time for you to do the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-54181353775988370382012-02-16T12:15:08.837-08:002012-02-16T12:15:08.837-08:00It's very "groupy" in there. Les'...It's very "groupy" in there. Les't hope those concerned can shatter the groupthink and actually have an impact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-51578982051321277792012-02-16T11:14:15.781-08:002012-02-16T11:14:15.781-08:00I surely hope that Roy will have supporters at the...I surely hope that Roy will have supporters at the meeting brave and honest enough to speak up with their own faculty concerns--that he will not have to carry this all alone, as has sometimes been the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-86130492250576439272012-02-16T10:55:42.215-08:002012-02-16T10:55:42.215-08:00By the way, why haven't they released the &quo...By the way, why haven't they released the "action letter" from the ACCJC that supposedly took IVC off of "warning" status pending another October 15 report and visit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-79921706550356050592012-02-16T09:51:59.320-08:002012-02-16T09:51:59.320-08:00I also remember the notification mentioned by 12:1...I also remember the notification mentioned by 12:11 am - whereupon the Senate leadership was duly informed to refrain from discussions or decisions that fall within the purview of the collective bargaining agreements. It's a no-brainer, really. <br /><br />I do believe there is a MOU which requires a union representative to be present and included in any such discussions that encroach on the collective bargaining agreements. <br /><br />No only should the administration have been well aware of this - so should have the leadership of the Senate.<br /><br />These agreements protect all of us. Some may recall when a certain faculty member almost had tenure denied because of "free speech activity" deemed "uncivil."<br /><br />Thanks to Roy and Lewis for looking out for us on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-47323168075373228522012-02-16T08:43:21.056-08:002012-02-16T08:43:21.056-08:00I hope Lewis will be at the senate meeting.I hope Lewis will be at the senate meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-68823989384527448512012-02-16T00:11:39.504-08:002012-02-16T00:11:39.504-08:00I recall a few years ago the senates were notified...I recall a few years ago the senates were notified in writing that they refrain from having any discussions and/or making any decisions that fall within the purview of the collective bargaining agreements. It’s my understanding there’s supposed to be a memorandum of understanding to that affect, which requires a union rep. to be present and included in any such discussions that encroach on the collective bargaining agreements. Administration should have been well aware of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-2439261059769012762012-02-15T20:31:32.191-08:002012-02-15T20:31:32.191-08:00Is it possible that people of good will are being ...Is it possible that people of good will are being used without their knowledge? I really find this puzzling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-59657668173061357332012-02-15T19:24:56.305-08:002012-02-15T19:24:56.305-08:00I'm looking forward to Senate tomorrow. I woul...I'm looking forward to Senate tomorrow. I would like to know what consequences there are for administrators who act uncivilized, not just staff. I can tell you plenty of stories about a particular uncivil bullying psychotic administrator who has gotten away with incivility time and again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-61318008665434507852012-02-15T17:54:03.214-08:002012-02-15T17:54:03.214-08:004:23: I'm sure that others beyond faculty have...4:23: I'm sure that others beyond faculty have these concerns, but my agenda request was sent to the organization that represents <i>faculty.</i>Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-48148943905894092182012-02-15T17:03:49.548-08:002012-02-15T17:03:49.548-08:00Something stinks.Something stinks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-16260763954825629162012-02-15T16:23:27.750-08:002012-02-15T16:23:27.750-08:00They are not just faculty concerns, they are conce...They are not just faculty concerns, they are concerns of students, staff, and many of the well-intentioned administrators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-44526769668825663742012-02-15T14:26:20.217-08:002012-02-15T14:26:20.217-08:00What survey? Dang, I missed that chance to give &...What survey? Dang, I missed that chance to give 'em an earful. My message - NO CONFIDENCE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-76243068276307614162012-02-15T14:15:00.400-08:002012-02-15T14:15:00.400-08:00You'd better stop now.
What's that sound?
...You'd better stop now.<br />What's that sound?<br />Everybody look what's goin' round.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-3534935233026283012012-02-15T13:45:48.280-08:002012-02-15T13:45:48.280-08:00LDAgateLDAgateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-55797947436130925752012-02-15T13:44:53.224-08:002012-02-15T13:44:53.224-08:00Brain Trust GateBrain Trust GateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-8632136896735577782012-02-15T12:09:13.550-08:002012-02-15T12:09:13.550-08:00Civilgate.Civilgate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-8304881643449158922012-02-15T11:59:16.426-08:002012-02-15T11:59:16.426-08:006:12
With all due respect, whatever does it mean ...6:12<br /><br />With all due respect, whatever does it mean to "disrupt the mission?"<br /><br />If the mission was to-at whatever cost-keep the seas calm and some have made waves and maybe some large, foamy waves maybe the mission as it currently stands needs some disruption.<br /><br />At the same time, many really do appreciate the efforts of this group as well as all the groups over the years who have worked on this matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-42393067956265583972012-02-15T11:50:15.823-08:002012-02-15T11:50:15.823-08:00Open a can of whoopass, BvT.Open a can of whoopass, BvT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com