tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post2914847584238116801..comments2024-03-05T09:00:51.695-08:00Comments on DISSENT the BLOG: The stunningly unacademic choices of one OC collegeRebel Girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00695051285325585662noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-50875034309012510222012-12-14T18:58:09.278-08:002012-12-14T18:58:09.278-08:00Glen is hiding behind the students. This is what ...Glen is hiding behind the students. This is what he and Morely want. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-29501084966746286752012-12-14T16:01:25.546-08:002012-12-14T16:01:25.546-08:00Doesn't anyone counsel the students about this...Doesn't anyone counsel the students about this? What do they think, that they're going to get jobs at Disney because their commencement speaker was from Disneyland? <br /><br />Again, it's supposed to be a COLLABORATIVE, COLLECTIVE process. Last year Glen went beyond the finalist and picked his own plagiarizer. This year he just did what he wanted to and hid his decision someone's notes from last year's rushed, poorly facilitated meeting and ASIVC's crush on Disney. <br /><br />I am sure she's nice and perhaps even "influential" (gee, if OC Metro says so it must be true!) but could we do better? Obviously. nice ideas here, by the way, if Glen is reading (I am sure he is - that's why he sent that email, right?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-13323344965175794682012-12-14T15:36:39.048-08:002012-12-14T15:36:39.048-08:00She's probably a very nice lady and all, but s...She's probably a very nice lady and all, but she's been "influencial"[sic] apparently in food services at D'land. This does not seem to comport with the idea of a distinguished speaker at a college commencement. <br /><br />And why, because a few student government types want someone from Disneyland, of all places, is that to be the final determination of a speaker's credentials?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-89262893162380341972012-12-14T12:50:12.667-08:002012-12-14T12:50:12.667-08:00Did you hear? Our new commencement speaker is inf...Did you hear? Our new commencement speaker is influencial! ::groan:: So much for being an institution of higher learning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-48487382696853330062012-12-14T09:38:22.918-08:002012-12-14T09:38:22.918-08:00Lucy Jones! That's an innovative choice. I lik...Lucy Jones! That's an innovative choice. I like the ideas here. Somehow there isn't leadership that allows ideas like these to grow - instead things are quashed and the mediocre status quo continues. I can only imagine what's happening with the scholarship program. everyone complains that there is no time for these things but isn't it someone's job to make it all work and to make it work responsibly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-22026364994550931932012-12-14T07:53:09.577-08:002012-12-14T07:53:09.577-08:00Chapman U had Dr. Lucy Jones, that earthquake spec...Chapman U had Dr. Lucy Jones, that earthquake specialist one year. She was great. I think it's a terrific idea to have different schools or departments forward names of specialists from their fields so that what we do here is somehow represented. That would make commencement even more collaborative - and interesting! These store-bought canned speeches, no matter how well-delivered, are quite embarrassing. Last year's was the worst. Plagiarized. I'm sure Glen's friend will do fine this year but I am also sure it is a speech that she gets paid to deliver elsewhere throughout the year, just dolled up for us here. Our students deserve better. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-37153935667972821852012-12-14T07:44:44.259-08:002012-12-14T07:44:44.259-08:00Saddleback once had historian and then-state libra...Saddleback once had historian and then-state librarian Kevin Starr as a speaker. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-28077348491029606842012-12-14T07:41:03.098-08:002012-12-14T07:41:03.098-08:00At Fullerton College they had Sylvia Mendez of the...At Fullerton College they had Sylvia Mendez of the Mendez vs. Westminster education case. A bit of O.C. history with national ramifications. Nice choice. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-27822582542259966402012-12-14T06:01:28.447-08:002012-12-14T06:01:28.447-08:00At my college where the administration seems to un...At my college where the administration seems to understand and respect the faculty a bit more and recognize that commencement is more than just a time to flatter local pols and business-types (YAWN), we have an unofficial rotation among the schools and departments so each field of study promotes a suitable candidate, sometimes a former student who did well (no, not in a Fortune 500 way), sometimes a prof from the local university in one of the most desired fields, etc. This way the students (and their families) get a glimpse of what the future might be and our programs are promoted and affirmed - as is our teaching. Our commencements are now distinctive in ways they didn't use to be. We use to have these speakers and they reminded me of the kind of ministers for hire who do funerals for people they don't know. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-80855586751862323662012-12-13T20:00:30.642-08:002012-12-13T20:00:30.642-08:00As so often before, I watch and listen from afar, ...As so often before, I watch and listen from afar, absolutely agog. I'm so sorry that your "leadership" doesn't know a thing about what higher education is for--as you say, Roy, not to give students what they want, but to shape, guide, inform--uh, to EDUCATE. Two years isn't enough time, apparently, if it's true that the students somehow thought that a corporate entity like Disneyland should have anything at ALL to do with their commencement.<br /><br />This is far more suitable as a topic of vehement protest than is the new (admittedly awful) UC logo.<br /><br />MAHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-1418974528733533402012-12-13T19:58:11.647-08:002012-12-13T19:58:11.647-08:00The faculty have long been concerned with securing...The faculty have long been concerned with securing a speaker suitable for the occasion - a commencement - not a job fair or some kind of fundraiser or frat party or comedy stand-up. It's not about WHO the faculty want to listen to - it's who might best speak to the day, the accomplishments of the students and what lies ahead - which is, of course, more study, more education, not less.<br /><br />If anyone is using the commencement for their own purposes it's the administration.<br /><br />And yes, the faculty confer the degrees - not the admin or the students. We're part of the day too. It would be nice to get more than just lip service about that. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-36216910369525871082012-12-13T11:20:18.411-08:002012-12-13T11:20:18.411-08:009:31, the degrees are conferred by the faculty, no...9:31, the degrees are conferred by the faculty, not by administrators, not by the college, not by the trustees, etc. The notion that commencement is a day for the students' enjoyment--not for the marking of a transition with a particular meaning--is a vulgar absurdity that has arisen only in recent decades. It has the provenance of a used whoopy cusion.Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-47389188873009373992012-12-13T10:17:41.741-08:002012-12-13T10:17:41.741-08:00Under the canopy covered stage during commencement...Under the canopy covered stage during commencement everyone looks black.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-23804315246693966682012-12-13T10:15:02.244-08:002012-12-13T10:15:02.244-08:00She's hot!She's hot!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-5003262687791239462012-12-13T09:31:11.198-08:002012-12-13T09:31:11.198-08:00"As I recall, she was very well received, and..."As I recall, she was very well received, and her appearance was a serious morale booster among at least some of the faculty, who had grown accustomed to hearing from lesser lights." Commencement is not for the faculty or the staff. It's for the students and their families.We attend merely to celebrate WITH them. Not because of what we think we may or may not have done. Who gives a rats ass how the faculty felt about a commencment speaker, it's not about them. If the students feel motivated, informed, entertained, or any other positive thing about a speaker they want, good for them! They listened to you all semester. Let them have THEIR time without listening to you bitch and moan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-87351881440123892302012-12-13T07:37:33.088-08:002012-12-13T07:37:33.088-08:00I heard someone say that it doesn't matter any...I heard someone say that it doesn't matter anyway because who will really remember what she says but I wonder what it would be like to have a speaker who did not utter immediately forgettable things. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-43812248964595023952012-12-12T22:33:14.152-08:002012-12-12T22:33:14.152-08:00I'm a big Harold Lloyd fan myself, which is wh...I'm a big Harold Lloyd fan myself, which is why I occasionally stick these stills from his films onto blog posts. (I do the same for Buster Keaton.) <br />Did you catch the reference to his "plastic" hand? Actually, the prosthesis was made of rubber and replaced only his thumb and index finger. He lost those digits in a bad accident on the set. Was blind for a while, too. Came back stronger than ever, with a rubber hand.Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-77997651682579827292012-12-12T22:16:37.983-08:002012-12-12T22:16:37.983-08:00I don't appreciate Harold Lloyd being smeared ...I don't appreciate Harold Lloyd being smeared by having his picture associated with IVC commencement speakers...Gustavo Arellanohttp://www.ocweekly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-49747975366499429102012-12-12T19:14:57.359-08:002012-12-12T19:14:57.359-08:00I like Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.I like Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.Arschlochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-19711803507994607672012-12-12T17:56:35.648-08:002012-12-12T17:56:35.648-08:00OMG - now I want to email Dean Salinger at UCI and...OMG - now I want to email Dean Salinger at UCI and ask her for copy of her speech just to show you guys. Jeez. Just because someone mentions we have a president named Barack Obama she is suddenly a "shill"? OMG. <br /><br />This is so embarrassing.<br /><br />I am not even going to touch the race thing. OMG.<br /><br />Jeez. It's worse than I thought here. Another reason why perhaps we should have people like Dean Salinger, speakers who can write their own speeches and have something to say beyond plagiarized platitudes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-70607917296023471712012-12-12T17:41:21.478-08:002012-12-12T17:41:21.478-08:00Check out Salinger's pic on her UCI profile HE...Check out Salinger's pic on her UCI profile <a href="http://www.faculty.uci.edu/profile.cfm?faculty_id=5333" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. If she's black, I'll have to get my vision checked.Roy Bauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107385463457119300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-45502095196844700712012-12-12T17:15:53.629-08:002012-12-12T17:15:53.629-08:00I think anon means Sharon Salinger in 2009. Is she...I think anon means Sharon Salinger in 2009. Is she black? She did mention Obama throughout her speech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-9421112062056090172012-12-12T17:10:22.600-08:002012-12-12T17:10:22.600-08:00I believe anon is referring to the black lady who ...I believe anon is referring to the black lady who spoke in 2010 before Jack Scott spoke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-47748514361358623202012-12-12T17:00:56.846-08:002012-12-12T17:00:56.846-08:00Glenn was the commencement speaker at Concoria'...Glenn was the commencement speaker at Concoria's graduation at the Bren Center last May and I have to say it was one of the most boring and forgettable commencement speeches I can recall. The buzz among the Concordia faculty was the reason Glenn was chosen was that the Concordia administration thought his participation would be a helpful tool in steering IVC transfer students to IVCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16908834.post-45406391802320569182012-12-12T15:34:10.307-08:002012-12-12T15:34:10.307-08:002006 - Wing Lam, aka the Wahoo's Fish Taco guy...2006 - Wing Lam, aka the Wahoo's Fish Taco guy<br /><br />2005 - Lou Bone<br /><br />2004 - ?<br /><br />2003 - ?<br /><br />Other years? <br /><br />Can anyone help fill in the blanks? In the 80s IVC had journalist Robert Scheer and writer and Berkeley professor Maxine Hong Kingston... <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com